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I literally cancelled my Plaid S order and switched to a Model Y over the stupidity of the yoke. I simply could not square that circle, so to speak. They emaile

I literally cancelled my Plaid S order and switched to a Model Y over the stupidity of the yoke. I simply could not square that circle, so to speak. They emailed me telling me it was going to be ready for delivery and I said, "you know what, I can tell I'm going to hate it." I'm really glad I did that. I simply cannot understand how the yoke ever made sense, aside from being a 13-year-old's idea of what a cool car would look like. I'm not changing 25 years of functional muscle memory for... literally no practical improvements at all. And the removal of the stalks is goddamn criminal. To save, what, a couple hundred dollars on a $150k car? That coupled with the rumored removal of ultrasonic sensors is some very stupid forest-for-trees regressions in "if it ain't broke, don't break it" world.

porphyra 4y ago
The yoke is very comfortable to rest your hand on while FSD is enabled, doesn't obscure the instrument cluster display, and you get used to it immediately. Like the old saying goes, don't knock it till you've tried it.
- kj34kj 4y ago
  But the Y has no instrument cluster. Which is one of my favorite features! Because in any other car, I always find part of the instrument cluster occluded by the wheel. I do agree that the yoke partially solves this problem, but it introduces many others (so I've heard; I admit I haven't tried it). Regardless, I'd just rather have no cluster.
- Mawr 4y ago
  > The yoke is very comfortable to rest your hand on while FSD is enabled Seems like the opposite is true: https://youtu.be/-QBWfw_nkr0?t=152 https://youtu.be/-QBWfw_nkr0?t=152
  - porphyra 4y ago
    Letting the wheel slide through your hand like that doesn't apply a torque, so you will get nagged and you will have to jiggle the wheel once in a while. By resting your hand on the corner of the yoke, it has just enough torque to keep the system happy indefinitely.
jeffybefffy519 4y ago
I reckon what you are seeing with Tesla's is kind of what Musk is doing with Twitter... Essentially, remove and/or change a bunch of things (people & features) then see if it still works in production. Literally the same thing is happening with a range of Tesla's - the Model Y is the more "normal" car because its cheaper thus more popular. Whereas the more expensive Tesla's have the more experimental crap, because people with more money are tolerant of bespoke/weird shit.

porphyra 4y ago

The yoke is very comfortable to rest your hand on while FSD is enabled, doesn't obscure the instrument cluster display, and you get used to it immediately. Like the old saying goes, don't knock it till you've tried it.

kj34kj 4y ago
But the Y has no instrument cluster. Which is one of my favorite features! Because in any other car, I always find part of the instrument cluster occluded by the wheel. I do agree that the yoke partially solves this problem, but it introduces many others (so I've heard; I admit I haven't tried it). Regardless, I'd just rather have no cluster.
Mawr 4y ago
> The yoke is very comfortable to rest your hand on while FSD is enabled Seems like the opposite is true: https://youtu.be/-QBWfw_nkr0?t=152 https://youtu.be/-QBWfw_nkr0?t=152
- porphyra 4y ago
  Letting the wheel slide through your hand like that doesn't apply a torque, so you will get nagged and you will have to jiggle the wheel once in a while. By resting your hand on the corner of the yoke, it has just enough torque to keep the system happy indefinitely.

jeffybefffy519 4y ago

I reckon what you are seeing with Tesla's is kind of what Musk is doing with Twitter... Essentially, remove and/or change a bunch of things (people & features) then see if it still works in production. Literally the same thing is happening with a range of Tesla's - the Model Y is the more "normal" car because its cheaper thus more popular. Whereas the more expensive Tesla's have the more experimental crap, because people with more money are tolerant of bespoke/weird shit.