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From your own link: > I don't think this belongs in the wayland protocol, but I'm not strongly opposed to using it as a fallback if not portal implementation i

From your own link: > I don't think this belongs in the wayland protocol, but I'm not strongly opposed to using it as a fallback if not portal implementation is available. Seems like a PR would be acceptable given Matthias' comment.

jchw 4y ago
That's only one part of the discussion. Now I don't want to throw undeserved shade, but I'm already running two MRs on top of upstream GTK to work around issues where "patches are welcome" and I haven't checked in a while, but I'm guessing they're no closer to merging than before (edit: wrong; one of them WAS merged, and the other I stopped running due to FTBFS, though it's still not merged.) I understand that bandwidth is limited, but saying "patches welcome" as a project that is notorious for throwing that out even when it's probably not going to be merged feels kind of scummy, because it basically enables doing one thing and saying another without need to justify or discuss it. It's obviously the GNOME developer's volitions if they don't want spend any cycles on it, but the message sent to the Wayland ecosystem is not great, and it's going to be a thing I think about when I hear "GNOME Project" for a very long time. (And frankly, soliciting patches for an issue then having the contributor sit for over a year rebasing without any substantial feedback is just kind of shitty.)
- tristan957 4y ago
  Could you perhaps link to your MRs that you are just rebasing over and over again?
  - jchw 4y ago
    Not my MRs, just ones that I am applying locally. That said, I will retract: the main ones I was interested in have actually closed. I did not notice that !3898 was closed because it got superseded, but I had been applying that one for a long time. I am interested in !4672, but it broke my build so I don't currently have it on. Dunno if that one will get merged. It's in the unfortunate place of being neither approved nor denied. I can't blame the GNOME developers too much here, since everyone is pretty much a volunteer, but it's definitely not a fun experience. I have some in flight PRs that are going nowhere to other projects including Sway right now.
    - tristan957 4y ago
      For 4672, you could always bump it and/or take over the MR yourself.

jchw 4y ago

That's only one part of the discussion. Now I don't want to throw undeserved shade, but I'm already running two MRs on top of upstream GTK to work around issues where "patches are welcome" and I haven't checked in a while, but I'm guessing they're no closer to merging than before (edit: wrong; one of them WAS merged, and the other I stopped running due to FTBFS, though it's still not merged.) I understand that bandwidth is limited, but saying "patches welcome" as a project that is notorious for throwing that out even when it's probably not going to be merged feels kind of scummy, because it basically enables doing one thing and saying another without need to justify or discuss it. It's obviously the GNOME developer's volitions if they don't want spend any cycles on it, but the message sent to the Wayland ecosystem is not great, and it's going to be a thing I think about when I hear "GNOME Project" for a very long time. (And frankly, soliciting patches for an issue then having the contributor sit for over a year rebasing without any substantial feedback is just kind of shitty.)

tristan957 4y ago
Could you perhaps link to your MRs that you are just rebasing over and over again?
- jchw 4y ago
  Not my MRs, just ones that I am applying locally. That said, I will retract: the main ones I was interested in have actually closed. I did not notice that !3898 was closed because it got superseded, but I had been applying that one for a long time. I am interested in !4672, but it broke my build so I don't currently have it on. Dunno if that one will get merged. It's in the unfortunate place of being neither approved nor denied. I can't blame the GNOME developers too much here, since everyone is pretty much a volunteer, but it's definitely not a fun experience. I have some in flight PRs that are going nowhere to other projects including Sway right now.
  - tristan957 4y ago
    For 4672, you could always bump it and/or take over the MR yourself.