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I’m not a sex offender and get less offers than you. You sound really entitled. Why should you take a job while those of us who lead decent lives struggle? I

I’m not a sex offender and get less offers than you. You sound really entitled. Why should you take a job while those of us who lead decent lives struggle? I’m on the autistic spectrum, and have C-PTSD from some of the previous interventions. I also used contraception with my partners, since I don’t come from wealth. Why on earth should anyone help you and send a signal that your behavior should be not only tolerated, but passed on?

SuperShibe 4y ago
How many offers you get is irrelevant for this discussion. You sound pretty prejudiced. Why is him taking a job "from others" a problem that concerns you? He seems to be qualified in his field. That's how the job market works for anyone. We don't even know how old his kids are. Maybe they were born before the incident? According to him his behaviour was caused by a mental illness (-> circumstances that can be considered out of his control). Also according to him his behaviour has stopped for years when the mental illness stopped. Do you have any additional information we don't have that by western ethical standards would justify such a harsh verdict?
- greggarious 4y ago
  My main concern is he presented explanations, not apologies. And I admittedly have no idea how the job market works, since I made the mistake of discussing working in intelligence when I was in my early 20s, and have had a series of folks try to keep me precarious ever since while simultaneously complaining I seem a bit… extreme. (That’s what happens when someone senses a disconnect between cause and effect… they stop thinking as much about consequences.)
  - SuperShibe 4y ago
    In case you aren't one of his victims he doesn't owe you an apology.
    - greggarious 4y ago
      And I don’t owe him assistance. You are absolutely correct that I am prejudiced - against folks I feel are entitled and antisocial. A different tone and word choice would have generated a very different response, given he doesn’t sound like a “hands on” offender and thus not actually as huge employment risk as a full blown rapist.
TheJoeDonger 4y ago
I've been a member of this site for a long time and don't think I've ever posted on it... but I'm going to make a post just to tell you that you are part of the problem in society. You had to take someone else's situation, which was bad and make it all about you. It's ridiculous, petulant behavior like this that makes the world worse. This guy came here bearing his soul in front of the world, showing contrition and for all to see, shares that he's got no shame left and is making what may well be his last-ditch effort at a human connection. He committed his crime, served his time and was punished. He's now in a system of perpetual punishment and all he's asking for is a chance. He's obviously _not_ perfect, he's made real, terrible mistakes and he cannot change that... BUT... Your attempt to make this about you, is bottom of the barrel. If you don't want to help the guy or offer advice fine, shut up and move on.
- greggarious 4y ago
  No, you’re part of the problem. Maybe I should commit a crime, serve my time, and then be given the assistance I’ve been denied as a victim. And by giving sincere feedback, I did help him. I’m sure next time he shares his sob story, he’ll be sure to say he is sorry rather than he has waited out an appropriate amount of time to be entitled to… what he wants.

SuperShibe 4y ago

How many offers you get is irrelevant for this discussion. You sound pretty prejudiced. Why is him taking a job "from others" a problem that concerns you? He seems to be qualified in his field. That's how the job market works for anyone. We don't even know how old his kids are. Maybe they were born before the incident? According to him his behaviour was caused by a mental illness (-> circumstances that can be considered out of his control). Also according to him his behaviour has stopped for years when the mental illness stopped. Do you have any additional information we don't have that by western ethical standards would justify such a harsh verdict?

greggarious 4y ago
My main concern is he presented explanations, not apologies. And I admittedly have no idea how the job market works, since I made the mistake of discussing working in intelligence when I was in my early 20s, and have had a series of folks try to keep me precarious ever since while simultaneously complaining I seem a bit… extreme. (That’s what happens when someone senses a disconnect between cause and effect… they stop thinking as much about consequences.)
- SuperShibe 4y ago
  In case you aren't one of his victims he doesn't owe you an apology.
  - greggarious 4y ago
    And I don’t owe him assistance. You are absolutely correct that I am prejudiced - against folks I feel are entitled and antisocial. A different tone and word choice would have generated a very different response, given he doesn’t sound like a “hands on” offender and thus not actually as huge employment risk as a full blown rapist.

TheJoeDonger 4y ago

I've been a member of this site for a long time and don't think I've ever posted on it... but I'm going to make a post just to tell you that you are part of the problem in society. You had to take someone else's situation, which was bad and make it all about you. It's ridiculous, petulant behavior like this that makes the world worse. This guy came here bearing his soul in front of the world, showing contrition and for all to see, shares that he's got no shame left and is making what may well be his last-ditch effort at a human connection. He committed his crime, served his time and was punished. He's now in a system of perpetual punishment and all he's asking for is a chance. He's obviously _not_ perfect, he's made real, terrible mistakes and he cannot change that... BUT... Your attempt to make this about you, is bottom of the barrel. If you don't want to help the guy or offer advice fine, shut up and move on.

greggarious 4y ago
No, you’re part of the problem. Maybe I should commit a crime, serve my time, and then be given the assistance I’ve been denied as a victim. And by giving sincere feedback, I did help him. I’m sure next time he shares his sob story, he’ll be sure to say he is sorry rather than he has waited out an appropriate amount of time to be entitled to… what he wants.