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>The GNOME Project has a vision that it wants to push and perfect. Their philosophy, simply put, is “stay out of my way”. Who's way are they trying to stay out

>The GNOME Project has a vision that it wants to push and perfect. Their philosophy, simply put, is “stay out of my way”. Who's way are they trying to stay out of? Like why do I need a keyboard shortcut in order to type out a file path when I try to upload a file in Firefox? There's some imagined user Who's way they're trying to stay out of, and it's not my way, and it's not any of my family Who's computers I set up...

NegativeLatency 4y ago
Having to right click and select rename drives me nuts
- marvinblum 4y ago
  F2
  - lost_tourist 4y ago
    same on windows.
  - NegativeLatency 4y ago
    Grew up using a mac
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Avshalom 4y ago
It's also weird to claim the philosophy is "stay out of my way" when things like the application menu take over the entire screen, the basically abandoned notion of tablet/laptop/desktop gui convergence has left gnome fairly modal, which makes for a desktop that is frequently throwing itself at you.
jeroenhd 4y ago
> Like why do I need a keyboard shortcut in order to type out a file path when I try to upload a file in Firefox? You don't? Just start typing a path (starting with / or ~ or .) and the path picker will switch to a path editor for you. Typing other characters will start a (recursive) search which is what I want to use most of the time myself. I'd also like them to let you double click the breadcrumbs to switch, but adding an extra action is not necessary in most cases.
- traverseda 4y ago
  Are you sure that's not an extension/patch your distro is bundling? Last I checked you needed to press ctrl+l in order to get to the path editor.
  - abenga 4y ago
    Even on debian testing, which uses vanilla GNOME, this works.
    - traverseda 4y ago
      Well that's good to know. last time I've looked was a few years go, not sure what happened with that.
  - jeroenhd 4y ago
    It's enabled on GNOME 42 on Manjaro. Older releases such as Ubuntu may not have it, though 22.04 does include this feature.

NegativeLatency 4y ago

Having to right click and select rename drives me nuts

marvinblum 4y ago
F2
- lost_tourist 4y ago
  same on windows.
- NegativeLatency 4y ago
  Grew up using a mac

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Avshalom 4y ago

It's also weird to claim the philosophy is "stay out of my way" when things like the application menu take over the entire screen, the basically abandoned notion of tablet/laptop/desktop gui convergence has left gnome fairly modal, which makes for a desktop that is frequently throwing itself at you.

jeroenhd 4y ago

> Like why do I need a keyboard shortcut in order to type out a file path when I try to upload a file in Firefox? You don't? Just start typing a path (starting with / or ~ or .) and the path picker will switch to a path editor for you. Typing other characters will start a (recursive) search which is what I want to use most of the time myself. I'd also like them to let you double click the breadcrumbs to switch, but adding an extra action is not necessary in most cases.

traverseda 4y ago
Are you sure that's not an extension/patch your distro is bundling? Last I checked you needed to press ctrl+l in order to get to the path editor.
- abenga 4y ago
  Even on debian testing, which uses vanilla GNOME, this works.
  - traverseda 4y ago
    Well that's good to know. last time I've looked was a few years go, not sure what happened with that.
- jeroenhd 4y ago
  It's enabled on GNOME 42 on Manjaro. Older releases such as Ubuntu may not have it, though 22.04 does include this feature.