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Too bad Google dropped the "don't be evil" mantra... only downhill from then... Why would anyone with common sense believe this to be a good idea?

SquareWheel 4y ago
For as many times as this has been debunked, it's rather frustrating to see this particular misinformation persist. https://abc.xyz/investor/other/google-code-of-conduct/ https://abc.xyz/investor/other/google-code-of-conduct/
- zzz345345 4y ago
  They removed it from their code of conduct in 2018. That article is from a year ago... I guess they put it back.
  - SquareWheel 4y ago
    I just linked you the code of conduct where it is very clearly still present. It was at one time moved from the opening statement to the closing statement, but it has never been removed as you've claimed. edit: This was in response to the parent's original comment, prior to the edit.
    - zzz345345 4y ago
      It's easy for Google to re-write history.... https://gizmodo.com/google-removes-nearly-all-mentions-of-dont-be-evil-from-1826153393 https://gizmodo.com/google-removes-nearly-all-mentions-of-do... But either way, the fact that they are evil today tells the whole story.
      - DannyBee 4y ago
        I have been at Google 17 years. I have seen nearly all versions of our code of conduct in existence (IE there were some prior to me joining, but they all had the "don't be evil part") It was never removed. That article is clickbait, and it has been called out as wrong by other articles, repeatedly. Others have pointed this out. This is trivial to verify by looking at web history archives, of which there are many. The first version that appeared on abc.xyz in 2018 has don't be evil in it (https://web.archive.org/web/20181202062954/https://abc.xyz/investor/other/google-code-of-conduct/ https://web.archive.org/web/20181202062954/https://abc.xyz/i...). The previous versions on google.com have don't be evil in them. Rather than accept any of this, you are simply repeating yourself again and again, and citing a debunked clickbait source. That will not make you any righter, and it will not make your claim any truer. You've already had one comment now flagged as dead because you won't stop. It is not interesting or a useful contribution to comments on this story. Can you please just grow up and move on, and or make some actually substantive comment about the article, rather than continue to derail and detract from the broader discussion? There is a thing worth discussing here, and this is not it.
        zzz345345 4y ago
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        DannyBee 4y ago
        "I was replying to different individuals... you don't need to read everything that I write." Yes, you did that despite people already telling you you were wrong and providing you links showing you you were wrong. Besides, that, seems you are still not going to just say "yes i was wrong" and move on i see, but instead going to ignore it and take the childish "you don't have to read what i write if you don't want" approach. Then ending with another silly, pointless quip. The most likely result of all this is that in the future, people will just ignore what you write, because it's not really interesting to engage with people who act like this. Oh well. Hope you decide to contribute more usefully in the future, and if you can't, choose not to participate.
  - noizejoy 4y ago
    Unless Google successfully removed online evidence, that simply doesn’t seem to be correct. A more nuanced and accurate description of the change seems to be written up here: https://www.searchenginejournal.com/google-dont-be-evil/254019/ https://www.searchenginejournal.com/google-dont-be-evil/2540...
    - zzz345345 4y ago
      https://gizmodo.com/google-removes-nearly-all-mentions-of-dont-be-evil-from-1826153393 https://gizmodo.com/google-removes-nearly-all-mentions-of-do...
      - SquareWheel 4y ago
        That article is specifically called out as being misleading and clickbaity by Search Engine Journal. I don't see what linking it again is adding to the conversation. >There have been click-baity news reports stating that “Google Removes ‘Don’t Be Evil’ Clause From Its Code of Conduct” but that is not entirely accurate. >Google has not removed that clause. Google has removed it from the preface, resulting in more attention to the word respect. But it still remains at the end of the document as before.
        zzz345345 4y ago
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SquareWheel 4y ago

For as many times as this has been debunked, it's rather frustrating to see this particular misinformation persist. https://abc.xyz/investor/other/google-code-of-conduct/ https://abc.xyz/investor/other/google-code-of-conduct/

zzz345345 4y ago
They removed it from their code of conduct in 2018. That article is from a year ago... I guess they put it back.
- SquareWheel 4y ago
  I just linked you the code of conduct where it is very clearly still present. It was at one time moved from the opening statement to the closing statement, but it has never been removed as you've claimed. edit: This was in response to the parent's original comment, prior to the edit.
  - zzz345345 4y ago
    It's easy for Google to re-write history.... https://gizmodo.com/google-removes-nearly-all-mentions-of-dont-be-evil-from-1826153393 https://gizmodo.com/google-removes-nearly-all-mentions-of-do... But either way, the fact that they are evil today tells the whole story.
    - DannyBee 4y ago
      I have been at Google 17 years. I have seen nearly all versions of our code of conduct in existence (IE there were some prior to me joining, but they all had the "don't be evil part") It was never removed. That article is clickbait, and it has been called out as wrong by other articles, repeatedly. Others have pointed this out. This is trivial to verify by looking at web history archives, of which there are many. The first version that appeared on abc.xyz in 2018 has don't be evil in it (https://web.archive.org/web/20181202062954/https://abc.xyz/investor/other/google-code-of-conduct/ https://web.archive.org/web/20181202062954/https://abc.xyz/i...). The previous versions on google.com have don't be evil in them. Rather than accept any of this, you are simply repeating yourself again and again, and citing a debunked clickbait source. That will not make you any righter, and it will not make your claim any truer. You've already had one comment now flagged as dead because you won't stop. It is not interesting or a useful contribution to comments on this story. Can you please just grow up and move on, and or make some actually substantive comment about the article, rather than continue to derail and detract from the broader discussion? There is a thing worth discussing here, and this is not it.
      - zzz345345 4y ago
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        DannyBee 4y ago
        "I was replying to different individuals... you don't need to read everything that I write." Yes, you did that despite people already telling you you were wrong and providing you links showing you you were wrong. Besides, that, seems you are still not going to just say "yes i was wrong" and move on i see, but instead going to ignore it and take the childish "you don't have to read what i write if you don't want" approach. Then ending with another silly, pointless quip. The most likely result of all this is that in the future, people will just ignore what you write, because it's not really interesting to engage with people who act like this. Oh well. Hope you decide to contribute more usefully in the future, and if you can't, choose not to participate.
- noizejoy 4y ago
  Unless Google successfully removed online evidence, that simply doesn’t seem to be correct. A more nuanced and accurate description of the change seems to be written up here: https://www.searchenginejournal.com/google-dont-be-evil/254019/ https://www.searchenginejournal.com/google-dont-be-evil/2540...
  - zzz345345 4y ago
    https://gizmodo.com/google-removes-nearly-all-mentions-of-dont-be-evil-from-1826153393 https://gizmodo.com/google-removes-nearly-all-mentions-of-do...
    - SquareWheel 4y ago
      That article is specifically called out as being misleading and clickbaity by Search Engine Journal. I don't see what linking it again is adding to the conversation. >There have been click-baity news reports stating that “Google Removes ‘Don’t Be Evil’ Clause From Its Code of Conduct” but that is not entirely accurate. >Google has not removed that clause. Google has removed it from the preface, resulting in more attention to the word respect. But it still remains at the end of the document as before.
      - zzz345345 4y ago
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