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It is disheartening to see a recurring theme of individuals expressing frustration over their inability to afford a home or advance in society, yet also express

It is disheartening to see a recurring theme of individuals expressing frustration over their inability to afford a home or advance in society, yet also expressing reluctance to engage in activities that could potentially bring financial stability. Our predecessors sacrificed their physical well-being in order to construct and maintain the infrastructure and amenities that we now benefit from. In order to maintain a functioning society, it is necessary for individuals to contribute their skills and labor to the greater good. Whether it be through manual labor or desk work, every individual is essentially selling their time, effort, and health to their employer. While it may not be the most desirable circumstance, it is a necessary component of societal functioning.

incone123 4y ago
"every individual" ha ha hah ha
beyond_based 4y ago
I’m going to be deadass with you brother. We don’t have a functioning society, we have an immigration labor camp.
- rednerrus 4y ago
  I'm interested in what types of media you consume that's helped to shape your worldview. The idea that living in an industrialized nation in 2023 isn't living in a functional society, seems very foreign to me. Which nation and which time period would you choose to live in over an industrialized nation in 2023?
  - bluejayello 4y ago
    I'd choose stone-age Europe. Die as a tribal warlord or die trying, that's life actually worth living. Being a neutered and fake modern human being even with a lot of printer money is still nothing.
gradys 4y ago
People not wanting to work is not the main reason we’re seeing more people find housing unaffordable. It’s the extreme rise in price of housing relative to income. I make dramatically more than my parents did when they were buying their first house around my age, but as a fraction of my income and savings, housing costs vastly more. (It’s also not clear that the skilled trades jobs Gen Z apparently doesn’t want actually pay more than the alternatives. See other comments on this post.)
- rednerrus 4y ago
  Here are the most reliable numbers I could come up with: 1990(Q1) average home price $124,000 2020(Q1) average home price $329,000 1990 average interest rate 9% 2020 average interest rate 3% 1990 average monthly mortgage payment $998 2020 average monthly mortgage payment $1387 1990 Average Wage Index (AWI): $21,027.98 2020 Average Wage Index (AWI): $55,628.60 1990 average monthly mortgage as a percentage of AWI 4.7% 2020 average monthly mortgage as a percentage of AWI 2.5% I'm stopping pre-covid as it doesn't seem like the real estate market has not had time to figure out the rapidly increasing interest/AWI rates. All of the numbers are based on US numbers.

incone123 4y ago

"every individual" ha ha hah ha

beyond_based 4y ago

I’m going to be deadass with you brother. We don’t have a functioning society, we have an immigration labor camp.

rednerrus 4y ago
I'm interested in what types of media you consume that's helped to shape your worldview. The idea that living in an industrialized nation in 2023 isn't living in a functional society, seems very foreign to me. Which nation and which time period would you choose to live in over an industrialized nation in 2023?
- bluejayello 4y ago
  I'd choose stone-age Europe. Die as a tribal warlord or die trying, that's life actually worth living. Being a neutered and fake modern human being even with a lot of printer money is still nothing.

gradys 4y ago

People not wanting to work is not the main reason we’re seeing more people find housing unaffordable. It’s the extreme rise in price of housing relative to income. I make dramatically more than my parents did when they were buying their first house around my age, but as a fraction of my income and savings, housing costs vastly more. (It’s also not clear that the skilled trades jobs Gen Z apparently doesn’t want actually pay more than the alternatives. See other comments on this post.)

rednerrus 4y ago
Here are the most reliable numbers I could come up with: 1990(Q1) average home price $124,000 2020(Q1) average home price $329,000 1990 average interest rate 9% 2020 average interest rate 3% 1990 average monthly mortgage payment $998 2020 average monthly mortgage payment $1387 1990 Average Wage Index (AWI): $21,027.98 2020 Average Wage Index (AWI): $55,628.60 1990 average monthly mortgage as a percentage of AWI 4.7% 2020 average monthly mortgage as a percentage of AWI 2.5% I'm stopping pre-covid as it doesn't seem like the real estate market has not had time to figure out the rapidly increasing interest/AWI rates. All of the numbers are based on US numbers.