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Even if the claims are valid it is still Windows/Linux only and ignores the cost of getting M1 customers to leave macOS which is like trying to get a linux user

Even if the claims are valid it is still Windows/Linux only and ignores the cost of getting M1 customers to leave macOS which is like trying to get a linux user to switch to Windows .... not bloody likely. Maybe they are trying to get a design win at Apple against Apple's own silicon also not bloody likely.

rchaud 4y ago
If you bothered to read beyond the headline, they compare performance against Intel as well
- FatActor 4y ago
  I don't understand your comment.
- olliej 4y ago
  I think you’re misunderstanding the comment. This headline was explicitly comparing to M1s, and the commenter is saying that many people with M1s aren’t using it solely for performance reasons, they’re using it for macOS. In that case it doesn’t matter the perf AMD gets as they’re still not running macOS.
infamia 4y ago
If Framework decided to put these new chips in their laptops (and assuming these claims are true), that might entice a number of Mac users. I've been a bit surprised at the number of Mac users around here saying they were excited to purchase a Framework Laptop.
- tluyben2 4y ago
  If this is true and if framework would and if it would run Linux well, I would move. Until then I am a happy m1 user.
- mattrick 4y ago
  If Framework ended up making a main board with this I’d probably finally pull the trigger on one. It’s been in my cart for a while but I never really could justify buying one.
- slaw 4y ago
  Framework needs to step up and offer at least one Linux distro.
  - rgrmrts 4y ago
    Both ubuntu and fedora work well out of the box. Several other distros work well too. Are you suggesting they ship a linux distro by default?
    - slaw 4y ago
      I read about a lot of issues with Intel 12th generation. Yes, I am suggesting to officially support a linux distro.
      - rgrmrts 4y ago
        12th gen has had issues on all machines. Linux has added a lot of improvements and things generally work fine now, but it's not as out-of-the-box as 11th. Take a look at https://frame.work/linux https://frame.work/linux This is probably as close to officially supporting linux as I can think of. I do agree that shipping with linux would be a good addition.
corkybeta 4y ago
I think the bigger intended effect of this choice of marketing is to try and stop Windows users moving to Mac for the excitement of the M1 chip.
jlokier 4y ago
I think you underestimate the number of developer type people who buy Apple laptops because of the great hardware (M1, screen, battery life, touchpad etc) and are comfortable with MacOS, but they are not Mac developers and would also be comfortable using Linux or Windows if every part of the laptop works well with it. Especially Linux, because they already use Linux on their servers and CI/CD, and some dev tools like Docker or anything filesystem-heavy run faster on Linux than MacOS even on the same hardware.

rchaud 4y ago

If you bothered to read beyond the headline, they compare performance against Intel as well

FatActor 4y ago
I don't understand your comment.
olliej 4y ago
I think you’re misunderstanding the comment. This headline was explicitly comparing to M1s, and the commenter is saying that many people with M1s aren’t using it solely for performance reasons, they’re using it for macOS. In that case it doesn’t matter the perf AMD gets as they’re still not running macOS.

infamia 4y ago

If Framework decided to put these new chips in their laptops (and assuming these claims are true), that might entice a number of Mac users. I've been a bit surprised at the number of Mac users around here saying they were excited to purchase a Framework Laptop.

tluyben2 4y ago
If this is true and if framework would and if it would run Linux well, I would move. Until then I am a happy m1 user.
mattrick 4y ago
If Framework ended up making a main board with this I’d probably finally pull the trigger on one. It’s been in my cart for a while but I never really could justify buying one.
slaw 4y ago
Framework needs to step up and offer at least one Linux distro.
- rgrmrts 4y ago
  Both ubuntu and fedora work well out of the box. Several other distros work well too. Are you suggesting they ship a linux distro by default?
  - slaw 4y ago
    I read about a lot of issues with Intel 12th generation. Yes, I am suggesting to officially support a linux distro.
    - rgrmrts 4y ago
      12th gen has had issues on all machines. Linux has added a lot of improvements and things generally work fine now, but it's not as out-of-the-box as 11th. Take a look at https://frame.work/linux https://frame.work/linux This is probably as close to officially supporting linux as I can think of. I do agree that shipping with linux would be a good addition.

corkybeta 4y ago

I think the bigger intended effect of this choice of marketing is to try and stop Windows users moving to Mac for the excitement of the M1 chip.

jlokier 4y ago

I think you underestimate the number of developer type people who buy Apple laptops because of the great hardware (M1, screen, battery life, touchpad etc) and are comfortable with MacOS, but they are not Mac developers and would also be comfortable using Linux or Windows if every part of the laptop works well with it. Especially Linux, because they already use Linux on their servers and CI/CD, and some dev tools like Docker or anything filesystem-heavy run faster on Linux than MacOS even on the same hardware.