>If labor isn't productive that's not a labor issue, thats a management issue from them mismanaging their labor You're assuming that any group of talented peop

>If labor isn't productive that's not a labor issue, thats a management issue from them mismanaging their labor You're assuming that any group of talented people can have a 100% track record of success. Some startups (or projects) just fail and it has nothing to do with the talent. You gotta take bets on new products/markets and sometimes they don't pan out. Sometimes it's just a market issue. There's not always a way to know if it was going to fail beforehand either. If we want innovation, then unfortunately I think these types of sh*tshows are part of the deal, although a 17,000 layoff is pretty gnarly.