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Again just like the other poster you are trying to move the goal posts. The comment did not say some. The comment said "the fact that America's most walkable

Again just like the other poster you are trying to move the goal posts. The comment did not say some. The comment said "the fact that America's most walkable and transit-accessible neighborhoods are also the most expensive and highest demand". I provided a single example that proves this statement is not a fact. edit: comment not commit

tomtheelder 4y ago
I don't have a metric for in-demand, but as I said, they are amongst the most expensive on a per-sq-ft basis, which is a much more useful metric for "expensive" than total cost. I didn't move the goalposts at all.
- keneda7 4y ago
  Again you are moving the goal posts. I will break it down for you. The original poster said 'most expensive' not the 'most expensive on a per-sq-ft basis'. You are arbitrarily adding the words on a per-sq-ft basis because you FEEL like its much more useful. You provide 0 evidence to support this. For example here is evidence that most people besides you feel that total cost is a much more important and useful metric. The follow sites selling homes list total cost as the main metric NOT the price per sq foot: https://www.zillow.com/ https://www.zillow.com/ https://www.realtor.com/ https://www.realtor.com/ https://www.movoto.com/ https://www.movoto.com/ https://www.redfin.com/ https://www.redfin.com/ https://www.trulia.com/ https://www.trulia.com/ https://www.homes.com/ https://www.homes.com/ Edit: Here are the top three sites on google when you search "most expensive areas to live in the us". A three seems to use median home price not median price per sq ft. https://www.rocketmortgage.com/learn/most-expensive-cities-in-the-us https://www.rocketmortgage.com/learn/most-expensive-cities-i... https://realestate.usnews.com/places/rankings/most-expensive-places-to-live https://realestate.usnews.com/places/rankings/most-expensive... https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/080916/top-10-most-expensive-cities-us.asp https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/08091...
Hugsun 4y ago
To be fair, the comment didn't say "every expensive and high demand neighborhood in america is walkable and transit accessible" either. Never forget that most statements, especially imprecise ones like the one you quoted can be interpreted in many ways. It is very easy to find an interpretation that is incorrect, especially if you disagree with/dislike the premise. The reason I say this is that your single example didn't seem to disprove the statement in my eyes. I read the statement as meaning that walkable neighborhoods are in most cases in much higher demand than other neighborhoods in the same region. I don't really think either of us is wrong, more that the imprecision of the statement and language in general can be unfortunate and cause disagreement. Also note that nobody will ever respond well to being accused of a logical fallacy. They are useful to understand what is happening and to rile people up. Not so much to convince anyone (that doesn't already agree with you) about anything.

tomtheelder 4y ago

I don't have a metric for in-demand, but as I said, they are amongst the most expensive on a per-sq-ft basis, which is a much more useful metric for "expensive" than total cost. I didn't move the goalposts at all.

keneda7 4y ago
Again you are moving the goal posts. I will break it down for you. The original poster said 'most expensive' not the 'most expensive on a per-sq-ft basis'. You are arbitrarily adding the words on a per-sq-ft basis because you FEEL like its much more useful. You provide 0 evidence to support this. For example here is evidence that most people besides you feel that total cost is a much more important and useful metric. The follow sites selling homes list total cost as the main metric NOT the price per sq foot: https://www.zillow.com/ https://www.zillow.com/ https://www.realtor.com/ https://www.realtor.com/ https://www.movoto.com/ https://www.movoto.com/ https://www.redfin.com/ https://www.redfin.com/ https://www.trulia.com/ https://www.trulia.com/ https://www.homes.com/ https://www.homes.com/ Edit: Here are the top three sites on google when you search "most expensive areas to live in the us". A three seems to use median home price not median price per sq ft. https://www.rocketmortgage.com/learn/most-expensive-cities-in-the-us https://www.rocketmortgage.com/learn/most-expensive-cities-i... https://realestate.usnews.com/places/rankings/most-expensive-places-to-live https://realestate.usnews.com/places/rankings/most-expensive... https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/080916/top-10-most-expensive-cities-us.asp https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/08091...

Hugsun 4y ago

To be fair, the comment didn't say "every expensive and high demand neighborhood in america is walkable and transit accessible" either. Never forget that most statements, especially imprecise ones like the one you quoted can be interpreted in many ways. It is very easy to find an interpretation that is incorrect, especially if you disagree with/dislike the premise. The reason I say this is that your single example didn't seem to disprove the statement in my eyes. I read the statement as meaning that walkable neighborhoods are in most cases in much higher demand than other neighborhoods in the same region. I don't really think either of us is wrong, more that the imprecision of the statement and language in general can be unfortunate and cause disagreement. Also note that nobody will ever respond well to being accused of a logical fallacy. They are useful to understand what is happening and to rile people up. Not so much to convince anyone (that doesn't already agree with you) about anything.