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It's probably quite easy to have a non-sanctioned 3rd party buy the parts and then they deliver the parts to Iran.
by UncleOxidant 4y ago
It's probably quite easy to have a non-sanctioned 3rd party buy the parts and then they deliver the parts to Iran.
- josephcsible 4y agoWhich is why it's silly to have sanctions that aren't transitive.
- theptip 4y agoAre you suggesting transitive sanctions? Or suggesting that this invalidates any sanctions regime?
- josephcsible 4y agoThe former.
- theptip 4y agoHow would that work? Businesses are liable if they trade with an entity that isn't on the OFAC list but turns out to be a shell company of a restricted entity? Each company needs to not only do KYB and ensure compliance with OFAC lists, but also somehow figure out UBOs for every customer too? Sounds like a lot of work to me, probably not viable for any but the biggest companies, and even they would struggle.
- pphysch 4y agoAnd broad sanctions amount to economic blockades which leads to massive civilian suffering. You can't let that farmer repair his tractor because the parts could be used in a drone. War is hell. Sanctions/blockades are evil and ineffective outside of destroying entire countries.
- jacquesm 4y ago> Sanctions/blockades are evil and ineffective outside of destroying entire countries. The alternative is one more war. Which would you prefer?
- missedthecue 4y agoIs it? Do sanctions stop war?
- jacquesm 4y agoThey don't stop war, they are an alternative to war, and sometimes a step before war in case the sanctions don't have any effect.
- pphysch 4y agoThere is a hidden third option called "diplomacy", e.g. JCPOA. Neocons hate this one weird trick!
- jacquesm 4y agoDiplomacy only works if the counter party is willing to play by the rules. Russia is not such a party. And that has nothing to do with neocons, it has everything to do with the fact that they see diplomacy simply as yet another weapon instead of a way to reach common ground.
- pphysch 4y agoWhat "rules" are you referring to, exactly? The historical details emerging around the Minsk agreements (e.g. Merkel's comments) indicate you are completely wrong here. Not to mention Trump's unilateral pullout of the JCPOA!
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- Balgair 4y agoI'm going to have to express my ignorance here: are sanctions not 'transitive'? I was under the impression that if a 3rd party violated the sanctions, then they would no longer have parts sent to them.