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> The mapping and charge planning on the BMW and particularly the EQE/EQS are arguably slightly superior now to Tesla Really? One of the main selling points fo

> The mapping and charge planning on the BMW and particularly the EQE/EQS are arguably slightly superior now to Tesla Really? One of the main selling points for me is that the center screen in Teslas are actually usable, non-laggy POS like most cars these days.

izacus 4y ago
None of the infotainment systems on new EVs are particularly laggy anymore - BMW and Mercedes systems are quite good. VW is the only one still shipping a piece of crock.
- rtp4me 4y ago
  Mind if I show you my 2021 Toyota Rav4 Hybrid Infotainment system? Utter garbage. Slow, clunky, almost unusable.
bbbbb5 4y ago
It's not really surprising, the 3 big German automakers spent around 3 billion USD to buy (at least at the time) the best mapping product on the market.
aplummer 4y ago
I think everyone else just turns on CarPlay / Android Auto and forgets they have an infotainment system.
- recursive 4y ago
  Aside from playing music and texts, I prefer the native functions in my Ford system, over the Android Auto.
  - lostmsu 4y ago
    Can you name a few? Ford's maps being better than GMaps would be very surprising.
    - recursive 4y ago
      I don't know what the general consensus is, but all I can say is that I prefer the Ford map. For one, it integrates chargers into route planning.
- eloisant 4y ago
  Which is great, except on a Tesla where you can't use them
- PyWoody 4y ago
  Which can be a great way to save a few bucks in areas of the world that charge higher registration fees for vehicles that have built-in SatNavs. I've had no issues with Android Auto wrt navigation or music.
mbesto 4y ago
Ya, anyone have a video to back this up? For all of Tesla's woes, their mapping screen is above and beyond superior to any native GPS I've ever seen.
- bbbbb5 4y ago
  Tesla is far behind everyone else on navigation due to the simple fact that Teslas do not have Carplay. There's no Waze on Teslas, how can you drive without it? But here's how the current Mercedes navigation looks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCgy3askMcM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCgy3askMcM The AR stuff works really well and is arguably way ahead of anything Tesla offers.
  - nouveaux 4y ago
    Waze is not able to plan a route with all the charging stops you need. Waze is fairly bad in an EV.
  - rtp4me 4y ago
    Hard disagree on this one. I have both a 2021 Tesla Model Y and a 2021 Toyota Rav4 Hybrid. Overall, the Tesla system is much better than the Toyota Infotainment system. For example: * Tesla maps has a much better zoom/scroll feature (faster, more detail, smoother). The Toyota map requires you to hit the "zoom" button and then click zoom-in/out * The calendar tool built into the Tesla allows me to easily navigate to the appointment location. * Tesla maps have way-point selection (set an additional stop between start and end) * The Toyota Infotainment system does not appear to have a "night mode". Thus, the display puts out a ton of light during night-time driving (even with the brightness level set to minimum) * Waze is way too "chatty" for my taste Because of the above, I am forced to use Apple CarPlay in the Toyota because the default UI experience is so horrible. Overall, I like the Toyota (great gas mileage), but I much prefer to drive the Tesla.
    - lostmsu 4y ago
      None of what you listed is applicable to Android Auto/CarPlay, which is exactly what parent was saying. For Android Auto it is a $100 device to make the system wireless so you don't have to pull your phone out of your pocket.

izacus 4y ago

None of the infotainment systems on new EVs are particularly laggy anymore - BMW and Mercedes systems are quite good. VW is the only one still shipping a piece of crock.

rtp4me 4y ago
Mind if I show you my 2021 Toyota Rav4 Hybrid Infotainment system? Utter garbage. Slow, clunky, almost unusable.

bbbbb5 4y ago

It's not really surprising, the 3 big German automakers spent around 3 billion USD to buy (at least at the time) the best mapping product on the market.

aplummer 4y ago

I think everyone else just turns on CarPlay / Android Auto and forgets they have an infotainment system.

recursive 4y ago
Aside from playing music and texts, I prefer the native functions in my Ford system, over the Android Auto.
- lostmsu 4y ago
  Can you name a few? Ford's maps being better than GMaps would be very surprising.
  - recursive 4y ago
    I don't know what the general consensus is, but all I can say is that I prefer the Ford map. For one, it integrates chargers into route planning.
eloisant 4y ago
Which is great, except on a Tesla where you can't use them
PyWoody 4y ago
Which can be a great way to save a few bucks in areas of the world that charge higher registration fees for vehicles that have built-in SatNavs. I've had no issues with Android Auto wrt navigation or music.

mbesto 4y ago

Ya, anyone have a video to back this up? For all of Tesla's woes, their mapping screen is above and beyond superior to any native GPS I've ever seen.

bbbbb5 4y ago
Tesla is far behind everyone else on navigation due to the simple fact that Teslas do not have Carplay. There's no Waze on Teslas, how can you drive without it? But here's how the current Mercedes navigation looks https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCgy3askMcM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCgy3askMcM The AR stuff works really well and is arguably way ahead of anything Tesla offers.
- nouveaux 4y ago
  Waze is not able to plan a route with all the charging stops you need. Waze is fairly bad in an EV.
- rtp4me 4y ago
  Hard disagree on this one. I have both a 2021 Tesla Model Y and a 2021 Toyota Rav4 Hybrid. Overall, the Tesla system is much better than the Toyota Infotainment system. For example: * Tesla maps has a much better zoom/scroll feature (faster, more detail, smoother). The Toyota map requires you to hit the "zoom" button and then click zoom-in/out * The calendar tool built into the Tesla allows me to easily navigate to the appointment location. * Tesla maps have way-point selection (set an additional stop between start and end) * The Toyota Infotainment system does not appear to have a "night mode". Thus, the display puts out a ton of light during night-time driving (even with the brightness level set to minimum) * Waze is way too "chatty" for my taste Because of the above, I am forced to use Apple CarPlay in the Toyota because the default UI experience is so horrible. Overall, I like the Toyota (great gas mileage), but I much prefer to drive the Tesla.
  - lostmsu 4y ago
    None of what you listed is applicable to Android Auto/CarPlay, which is exactly what parent was saying. For Android Auto it is a $100 device to make the system wireless so you don't have to pull your phone out of your pocket.