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While I cannot speak for OP, I have noticed that some people seem to view non-straight orientations as inherently sexual. To those people any reference to havin

While I cannot speak for OP, I have noticed that some people seem to view non-straight orientations as inherently sexual. To those people any reference to having a same sex spouse (or that you date members of the same sex, etc.) is equivalent to mentioning that you engage in BDSM. I do think most people would be weirded about about a kids show having characters that mention they are into BDSM would be weird and inappropriate. Of course mentioning that you are not straight is no more inherently sexual than mentioning that you have an opposite sex spouse, or that you like people of the opposite sex romantically. Honestly, I think a large part of the issue is use of the phrase "homosexual" in many places where "homoromatic" would be better (and people equating the word "gay" with homosexual, rather than homoromantic). In plenty of circumstances discussing who you find hot or who you are sleeping with would be inappropriate, while mentioning who you are dating, or married to would not be inappropriate. For example, I probably should not know who my boss is sleeping with, but it would not be weird to know who they are married to, if not married, to know their long term dating partner. The fact that most people sleep with those they date, and that their romantic orientation tends to align with sexual orientation is not really relevant.

wonderwonder 4y ago
I agree with this to a point but I think a lot of this has to do with the overt sexualization of pro gay demonstrations. Pride parades contain a lot of heightened sexuality. One of the drivers of my point of view (which for me is relatively new) and my aversion to letting my kids watch gay shows was I accidentally drove passed a pride parade with my young kid a while ago and he saw several men walking with their rear ends sexually exposed. Sex vs romantic intentions is often associated with homosexuality but its not only the fault of the people wishing to limit exposure of their kids to it, its also the fault of those advocating for it. I am 100% for adults doing whatever they want sexually in the privacy of their homes, I just disagree with pulling bystanders into it. This is different that romantic displays, if a couple of gay dudes want to walk down the street dressed in a tshirt and jeans holding hands, more power to them.
- Mezzie 4y ago
  Honestly, I agree with you. (And I'm a lesbian). In my opinion, if we want to be accepted members of the community, we need to hold ourselves to the same standards as any other community members. It's also, unfortunately, a bad cycle: The boring gays like me start staying home and being quiet but then there's nobody around to say 'uh, maybe there should be a public and private distinction in acceptable behavior and attire'. If we expect people to trust us with their kids, we need to be trustworthy around kids.
- jsmith45 4y ago
  I do agree that far too many people treat public pride events as kink events, which is really f'ed up. The most important rule about kink is not to involve unwilling participants. This even includes things like dont go around wearing your gimp mask in public. At a kink convention, sure, i guess that sort of think might be acceptable. Unfortunately, pride events are in an awkward spot where many have long been associated with queer kink communities, and when organizers or reasonable members of the community try to reign this crap in, they get a lot of pushback from people who don't want to lose the event where they can be kinky in public. Many pride events would really benefit from either becoming a properly family friend event, possibly with a a contained 18+ area for the kink stuff, or become a fully 18+ event, and setting up so as to minimize exposure to the general public. Sadly not all of them are doing so...

wonderwonder 4y ago

I agree with this to a point but I think a lot of this has to do with the overt sexualization of pro gay demonstrations. Pride parades contain a lot of heightened sexuality. One of the drivers of my point of view (which for me is relatively new) and my aversion to letting my kids watch gay shows was I accidentally drove passed a pride parade with my young kid a while ago and he saw several men walking with their rear ends sexually exposed. Sex vs romantic intentions is often associated with homosexuality but its not only the fault of the people wishing to limit exposure of their kids to it, its also the fault of those advocating for it. I am 100% for adults doing whatever they want sexually in the privacy of their homes, I just disagree with pulling bystanders into it. This is different that romantic displays, if a couple of gay dudes want to walk down the street dressed in a tshirt and jeans holding hands, more power to them.

Mezzie 4y ago
Honestly, I agree with you. (And I'm a lesbian). In my opinion, if we want to be accepted members of the community, we need to hold ourselves to the same standards as any other community members. It's also, unfortunately, a bad cycle: The boring gays like me start staying home and being quiet but then there's nobody around to say 'uh, maybe there should be a public and private distinction in acceptable behavior and attire'. If we expect people to trust us with their kids, we need to be trustworthy around kids.
jsmith45 4y ago
I do agree that far too many people treat public pride events as kink events, which is really f'ed up. The most important rule about kink is not to involve unwilling participants. This even includes things like dont go around wearing your gimp mask in public. At a kink convention, sure, i guess that sort of think might be acceptable. Unfortunately, pride events are in an awkward spot where many have long been associated with queer kink communities, and when organizers or reasonable members of the community try to reign this crap in, they get a lot of pushback from people who don't want to lose the event where they can be kinky in public. Many pride events would really benefit from either becoming a properly family friend event, possibly with a a contained 18+ area for the kink stuff, or become a fully 18+ event, and setting up so as to minimize exposure to the general public. Sadly not all of them are doing so...