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> 7950X3D + an RTX 4090 + a PCIe 5 SSD will be quite the system for programming Agreed, but not for testing, please. Too much stuff out there already seems to

by Arrath 4y ago

> 7950X3D + an RTX 4090 + a PCIe 5 SSD will be quite the system for programming Agreed, but not for testing, please. Too much stuff out there already seems to be designed for or tested on what might as well be supercomputers like the above, and then get shipped out to run on Grandma's 7 year old <Misc Manufacturer> laptop.

lopkeny12ko 4y ago
This is an odd take. Why shouldn't software benchmarks be showcased with the best available hardware? How am I supposed to reason about MySQL performance results taken from a run-of-the-mill dual-core machine from 2015?
- pawelduda 4y ago
  Replace MySQL with any client-side app
- Arrath 4y ago
  I'm not talking about benchmarks, I'm talking about average end user experience.
- unregistereddev 4y ago
  I think they intended to refer to software development QA, not benchmarking. I do agree with the sentiment that consumer software should generally be usable on 10 year old hardware. "Generally" carries a lot of weight here, because intensive applications like CAD will always be laggy on old hardware.
- integricho 4y ago
  it's meant for the multitude of electron crapware that's being shoveled down our throat.
kitsunesoba 4y ago
The same thing happens with displays. Designers and devs are using things like high-end Dell Ultrasharps, LG UltraFines, the integrated screens in MacBook Pros, iMac 27" displays/Studio Displays, Pro Display XDRs, etc but in reality a huge number of the screens in use are things like those terrible 1366x766 TN panels that dominated budget 10"-17" laptops for over a decade. I'm fairly confident the low-contrast flat design trend that's been going for a while now wouldn't have been a thing if it were a requirement for UIs to be usable and reasonably good looking on a crappy $250 Walmart special Dell Inspiron from 2012.
- mmis1000 4y ago
  The wonderful thing about webpage design is your user don't give a f**k about color correction. Monitors nowadays are almost shipped with a default configuration of high saturation, high contrast, high color temperature. To the point that I think standard srgb 'paper white' is pointless for webpages. Because virtually nobody except designer themselves will enable it on their monitor. Maybe some group should get consensus about modern monitor 'paper white' so at least everybody has a daily monitor in same setting no matter how good/bad his monitor is.
ilyt 4y ago
Web devs should be getting 10 years old netbooks, then we might have web that's not dog slow and fat
- csomar 4y ago
  I have a 6-months old laptop with the latest intel processor and many of these web 3.0 websites (including alchmey own website) are too damn slow to be operable.

by Arrath 4y ago

lopkeny12ko 4y ago

This is an odd take. Why shouldn't software benchmarks be showcased with the best available hardware? How am I supposed to reason about MySQL performance results taken from a run-of-the-mill dual-core machine from 2015?

pawelduda 4y ago
Replace MySQL with any client-side app
Arrath 4y ago
I'm not talking about benchmarks, I'm talking about average end user experience.
unregistereddev 4y ago
I think they intended to refer to software development QA, not benchmarking. I do agree with the sentiment that consumer software should generally be usable on 10 year old hardware. "Generally" carries a lot of weight here, because intensive applications like CAD will always be laggy on old hardware.
integricho 4y ago
it's meant for the multitude of electron crapware that's being shoveled down our throat.

kitsunesoba 4y ago

The same thing happens with displays. Designers and devs are using things like high-end Dell Ultrasharps, LG UltraFines, the integrated screens in MacBook Pros, iMac 27" displays/Studio Displays, Pro Display XDRs, etc but in reality a huge number of the screens in use are things like those terrible 1366x766 TN panels that dominated budget 10"-17" laptops for over a decade. I'm fairly confident the low-contrast flat design trend that's been going for a while now wouldn't have been a thing if it were a requirement for UIs to be usable and reasonably good looking on a crappy $250 Walmart special Dell Inspiron from 2012.

mmis1000 4y ago
The wonderful thing about webpage design is your user don't give a f**k about color correction. Monitors nowadays are almost shipped with a default configuration of high saturation, high contrast, high color temperature. To the point that I think standard srgb 'paper white' is pointless for webpages. Because virtually nobody except designer themselves will enable it on their monitor. Maybe some group should get consensus about modern monitor 'paper white' so at least everybody has a daily monitor in same setting no matter how good/bad his monitor is.

ilyt 4y ago

Web devs should be getting 10 years old netbooks, then we might have web that's not dog slow and fat

csomar 4y ago
I have a 6-months old laptop with the latest intel processor and many of these web 3.0 websites (including alchmey own website) are too damn slow to be operable.