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Parents are responsible for monitoring their children, not the state.
by lokar 4y ago
Parents are responsible for monitoring their children, not the state.
- alchemist1e9 4y agoYes true but as a parent it’s not as easy as you suggest. In particular it’s extremely difficult for less educated and poorer parents to block porn access.
- silent_cal 4y agoExactly. I met a poor mother at a gas station in tears about how her child had been corrupted by porn that he saw on his phone. People just don’t know how bad it is.
- SketchySeaBeast 4y ago> I met a poor mother at a gas station in tears about how her child had been corrupted by porn that he saw on his phone. This is the weirdest anecdote.
- silent_cal 4y agoShe had nobody else to talk to and I happened to be standing there. I filled up her car because she was stuck, and she started crying and telling me about this. I was surprised too but it really affected how I think about this issue.
- thepasswordis 4y agoHey if you guys want to go down that libertarian rabbit hole with me I'm with you! But it feels a little bit strange to me that people are on board with the idea that the government should be protecting me from buying antibiotics without getting themselves involved, but they don't think they should be protecting my children from being sexually harassed on the internet by pornographers. If that's the modality we are going to switch to, where it becomes my responsibility to protect myself and my family from bad actors then fine. I accept the compromise. Please direct me to the place I can buy whatever medications I want without the government knowing or caring, and the place where I can attach unregulated firearms to my unregistered drones to hunt bears on my property. But again it seems pretty odd to me that there is nobody up in arms about the fact that my kid needs to show ID and get my permission to get antibiotics, but you guys are all up in arms because he, a 12 year old, can't go online and be monetized into watching incest gangbang porn so that mindgeek can make a few cents off of ads for escort services and dick pills.
- catiopatio 4y agoI’m opposed to both, but I’m not sure that’s even relevant. Compared to a bored store clerk eyeballing your ID in person, digital, cryptographically enforced, centralized state identity verification on the internet is a powerful new tool for state censorship and control. The same “save the children” imperative could have been achieved by requiring that porn sites set a header designating themselves as porn, and letting the private market voluntarily add support to their parental controls for filtering that content. Nothing about this problem requires abrogating both privacy rights and parental responsibility.
- nmz 4y agoWho's sexually harassing anyone here? You go on pornhub to look at porn, nobody ends up at pornhup by mistake. To say pornhub is harassing is like dropping yourself into a volcano and being mad that its hot. For something to be harassment it has to be unwanted.
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- thepasswordis 4y agoDo you extend this thinking to other forms of child sexual abuse? For instance: if a child meets an adult in person for sex, do you justify this by saying that "nobody ends up meeting somebody for sex by mistake"?
- nmz 4y agoThat is illegal. I also don't conflate reality with fiction. Porn isn't real.
- vxNsr 4y agoJust as it’s your responsibility to not get shot, keep the state away from guns.