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Just focusing on the part of whether this law will achieve it's stated aim, it's fairly clear it will not, meaning that the costs in terms of privacy are effect

Just focusing on the part of whether this law will achieve it's stated aim, it's fairly clear it will not, meaning that the costs in terms of privacy are effectively for nothing. Firstly people will just go to the sites which have under 1/3 and therefore are not in-scope. Secondly sites will game the threshold, if they think it'll be to their financial advantage. Thirdly underage kids will (I would imagine) work out how to bypass these filters pretty quickly, using VPNs et al. Fourthly, people attempting to bypass these filters might fall prey to malware dressed up as VPN/bypass software.

twiclo 4y ago
When an 8 year old boy (the average age that boys are exposed to pornography) googles a pornographic term the whole page is listed with websites dedicated to pornography. Of course a more mature person can get around that but that doesn't mean we shouldn't do the bare minimum to stop literally 8 year olds from being exposed to hardcore pornography
- brookst 4y ago
  You may be doing a poor job of raising your 8 year old, but that doesn’t mean everyone else is. Bring in an advisor or an au pair or something. Don’t enlist the government to raise everyone else’s children just because you’re struggling.
- seanw444 4y ago
  The bare minimum is the parents. The overkill maximum is having government ID registration to access information.
  - x86x87 4y ago
    Yup. This is the US in a nutshell. Going to absurd lenghts to enforce puritanism with zero parenting effort. If you're a kid and your parent don't give a damn and set you free on the internet you will be exposed to porn. Why talk to your kids and educate them + maybe do your best to limit their exposure to things you don't agree with when you can clutch your pearls and demand ridiculous things like this? This will definetly backfire. It's a sad state of afair that reminds me about some dumbass local politicians somewhere that tried to make pi equal 4 since using 3.14 was too hard.
- raesene9 4y ago
  And the bare minimum can (and probably should) be achieved without legislation. Filter in the browser, at the ISP supplied router, using DNS ... None of it is perfect but also it doesn't require the privacy problems that this does. Also I have a feeling (although it is just that) that kids aren't getting their porn via google searches. My guess would be social media/chat apps all the time.

twiclo 4y ago

When an 8 year old boy (the average age that boys are exposed to pornography) googles a pornographic term the whole page is listed with websites dedicated to pornography. Of course a more mature person can get around that but that doesn't mean we shouldn't do the bare minimum to stop literally 8 year olds from being exposed to hardcore pornography

brookst 4y ago
You may be doing a poor job of raising your 8 year old, but that doesn’t mean everyone else is. Bring in an advisor or an au pair or something. Don’t enlist the government to raise everyone else’s children just because you’re struggling.
seanw444 4y ago
The bare minimum is the parents. The overkill maximum is having government ID registration to access information.
- x86x87 4y ago
  Yup. This is the US in a nutshell. Going to absurd lenghts to enforce puritanism with zero parenting effort. If you're a kid and your parent don't give a damn and set you free on the internet you will be exposed to porn. Why talk to your kids and educate them + maybe do your best to limit their exposure to things you don't agree with when you can clutch your pearls and demand ridiculous things like this? This will definetly backfire. It's a sad state of afair that reminds me about some dumbass local politicians somewhere that tried to make pi equal 4 since using 3.14 was too hard.
raesene9 4y ago
And the bare minimum can (and probably should) be achieved without legislation. Filter in the browser, at the ISP supplied router, using DNS ... None of it is perfect but also it doesn't require the privacy problems that this does. Also I have a feeling (although it is just that) that kids aren't getting their porn via google searches. My guess would be social media/chat apps all the time.