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The article I linked is very thorough. It covers basic issues like that: "Today the rate of obesity in Italy, France, and Sweden is around 20%. In 1975, there

The article I linked is very thorough. It covers basic issues like that: "Today the rate of obesity in Italy, France, and Sweden is around 20%. In 1975, there was no country in the world that had an obesity rate higher than 15%. This wasn’t a steady, gentle trend as food got better, or diets got worse. People had access to plenty of delicious, high-calorie foods back in 1965. Doritos were invented in 1966, Twinkies in 1930, Oreos in 1912, and Coca-Cola all the way back in 1886. So what changed in 1980?"

CadmiumYellow 4y ago
I love that series by Slime Mold Time Mold but I don't entirely agree with their conclusions. Sure, Doritos and Twinkies existed before 1980, but anybody who's been alive since the 60s or 70s can tell you that the food environment has changed dramatically in such a way that processed junk food is now much more accessible and makes up a larger portion of the average person's diet. There are probably multiple things going on that involve environmental contaminants, the food supply, and cultural attitudes towards food.
- adamsmith143 4y ago
  Sure but they cover those aspects too. It may in fact be due to eating more processed food but only as a function of that introducing more contaminants into your body.
  - CadmiumYellow 4y ago
    I read the whole thing but I disagree with their conclusions re: processed foods. I'm more inclined to believe that processed foods promote overeating and override satiety cues in a way that adds up over time, as found in this very interesting study (check out the appendix with photos of all the meals, it's fun). https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31105044/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31105044/
    - adamsmith143 4y ago
      But you can account for this by equalizing caloric intake per day. It's an easy effect to deal with. I think much of their article is arguing directly against the idea that we just eat more calories.

CadmiumYellow 4y ago

I love that series by Slime Mold Time Mold but I don't entirely agree with their conclusions. Sure, Doritos and Twinkies existed before 1980, but anybody who's been alive since the 60s or 70s can tell you that the food environment has changed dramatically in such a way that processed junk food is now much more accessible and makes up a larger portion of the average person's diet. There are probably multiple things going on that involve environmental contaminants, the food supply, and cultural attitudes towards food.

adamsmith143 4y ago
Sure but they cover those aspects too. It may in fact be due to eating more processed food but only as a function of that introducing more contaminants into your body.
- CadmiumYellow 4y ago
  I read the whole thing but I disagree with their conclusions re: processed foods. I'm more inclined to believe that processed foods promote overeating and override satiety cues in a way that adds up over time, as found in this very interesting study (check out the appendix with photos of all the meals, it's fun). https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31105044/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31105044/
  - adamsmith143 4y ago
    But you can account for this by equalizing caloric intake per day. It's an easy effect to deal with. I think much of their article is arguing directly against the idea that we just eat more calories.