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Im curious how this is going to be calculated. Is 33% of Reddit NSFW? Possibly. Do they ban Reddit without government ID? Talk about a conservative nanny state

Im curious how this is going to be calculated. Is 33% of Reddit NSFW? Possibly. Do they ban Reddit without government ID? Talk about a conservative nanny state why don't you.

KMnO4 4y ago
If there’s a way we can get Reddit to >33% I’d love to help. Let’s watch the policymakers struggle when they have to explain when you need to upload your drivers license to view /r/cats. Nothing helps fight stupid laws more than when they get in the way of regular people doing completely unrelated things.
- lode 4y ago
  > Let’s watch the policymakers struggle when they have to explain when you need to upload your drivers license to view /r/cats. Or maybe you'll need to upload 5 cat pictures (to keep it <33%) to view /r/nsfw
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- anonporridge 4y ago
  Meh. They'll just carve an exception for sites that serve user uploaded content to gate specific communities that host porn. Reddit already does this, so it would be trivial for them to add an ID check for NSFW subreddits.
nhatcher 4y ago
Reddit is banned here in Indonesia for that reason.
ElfinTrousers 4y ago
You know...Louisiana's state legislature probably publishes an official record of their proceedings (the Federal equivalent would be the Congressional Record). It'd be a real shame/freaking hilarious if some legislator entered thousands of pages of erotica into the record, pushing an edition of it over the 33.3% threshold.
- slater- 4y ago
  genius.
eldritch_4ier 4y ago
Why should internet porn be the ONLY exception to requiring age verification? We already require age verification when you buy drugs, buy guns, vote, buy a drink, buy porn mags from a store, buy cigars, access alcohol websites, access gambling websites, etc But if you're a 10 year old trying to watch adults fuck each other, that's totally fine (as long as its on a screen of course, but not a window screen, and certainly not in person - a distinction that apparently makes all the difference). Nevermind that children can't consent to the harm, just as they can't consent to drink alcohol or smoke cigars, or look at porn in a magazine. Do you have a reason why internet porn should be the ONLY exception to requiring age verification for adult things?
- xdennis 4y ago
  Those are not comparable, primarily because of privacy. People don't care that you know that they voted or had a drink. And in those cases, they don't record who you voted for, what porn mag you bought, etc.
- cobaltinferno 4y ago
  Its more so about privacy. You shouldn't have to give up your privacy to watch porn, or browse the internet.
ttyprintk 4y ago
The design seems to be a proportion of “total material”. Perfectly vague-enough to propel both sides in some hypothetical lawsuit to make a good case and also, after they lose, to make an excuse that the law could work as intended if only for a small bookkeeping clarification.

Im curious how this is going to be calculated. Is 33% of Reddit NSFW? Possibly. Do they ban Reddit without government ID? Talk about a conservative nanny state why don't you.

KMnO4 4y ago

If there’s a way we can get Reddit to >33% I’d love to help. Let’s watch the policymakers struggle when they have to explain when you need to upload your drivers license to view /r/cats. Nothing helps fight stupid laws more than when they get in the way of regular people doing completely unrelated things.

lode 4y ago
> Let’s watch the policymakers struggle when they have to explain when you need to upload your drivers license to view /r/cats. Or maybe you'll need to upload 5 cat pictures (to keep it <33%) to view /r/nsfw
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anonporridge 4y ago
Meh. They'll just carve an exception for sites that serve user uploaded content to gate specific communities that host porn. Reddit already does this, so it would be trivial for them to add an ID check for NSFW subreddits.

nhatcher 4y ago

Reddit is banned here in Indonesia for that reason.

ElfinTrousers 4y ago

You know...Louisiana's state legislature probably publishes an official record of their proceedings (the Federal equivalent would be the Congressional Record). It'd be a real shame/freaking hilarious if some legislator entered thousands of pages of erotica into the record, pushing an edition of it over the 33.3% threshold.

slater- 4y ago
genius.

eldritch_4ier 4y ago

Why should internet porn be the ONLY exception to requiring age verification? We already require age verification when you buy drugs, buy guns, vote, buy a drink, buy porn mags from a store, buy cigars, access alcohol websites, access gambling websites, etc But if you're a 10 year old trying to watch adults fuck each other, that's totally fine (as long as its on a screen of course, but not a window screen, and certainly not in person - a distinction that apparently makes all the difference). Nevermind that children can't consent to the harm, just as they can't consent to drink alcohol or smoke cigars, or look at porn in a magazine. Do you have a reason why internet porn should be the ONLY exception to requiring age verification for adult things?

xdennis 4y ago
Those are not comparable, primarily because of privacy. People don't care that you know that they voted or had a drink. And in those cases, they don't record who you voted for, what porn mag you bought, etc.
cobaltinferno 4y ago
Its more so about privacy. You shouldn't have to give up your privacy to watch porn, or browse the internet.

ttyprintk 4y ago

The design seems to be a proportion of “total material”. Perfectly vague-enough to propel both sides in some hypothetical lawsuit to make a good case and also, after they lose, to make an excuse that the law could work as intended if only for a small bookkeeping clarification.