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The US has been shipping refuse to China for quite some time for recycling. I have been to Shenzhen and there are millions of recycled electronic parts owned,

The US has been shipping refuse to China for quite some time for recycling. I have been to Shenzhen and there are millions of recycled electronic parts owned, manufactured, or distributed by American companies, including "semiconductors and GPS modules". What is the likelihood that these parts are mostly recycled?

tzs 4y ago
I doubt that Iran needs to use recycled parts. Most of the components specifically mentioned in the article are things that are common in most electronic devices. They are generally unrestricted and there is no tracking done of who buys them or what they are going to use them for. The only limit on buying them is when the buyer and seller happen to be in different countries that have some sort of general trade restriction between them such as sanctions. These are the countries that Iran has over $1B/year in imports from: China, UAE, India, Turkey, Germany, Switzerland, South Korea, Russia, Italy, UK, Netherlands, and France. As far as I know there are no restrictions on US companies selling these components to buyers or distributors in at least 2/3 of those countries. Iran can probably just order from distributors in many of them, or have someone in one of those countries buy the components and ship them to Iran. Keeping these components out of Iran is about as difficult as keeping something like nails from a US company or USB cables from a US company out of Iran.
- dmix 4y ago
  Indeed, US sanctions can only increase the costs and lower access to advanced high end tech of domestic Iran defence industry. This still has serious consequences, especially long term and extends well beyond the miltary... Even if the miscellaneous run of the mill electronics aren't controllable.
kube-system 4y ago
We ship brand new parts to China too. No need for recycled parts.

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The US has been shipping refuse to China for quite some time for recycling. I have been to Shenzhen and there are millions of recycled electronic parts owned,

by WaitWaitWha 4y ago

tzs 4y ago
I doubt that Iran needs to use recycled parts. Most of the components specifically mentioned in the article are things that are common in most electronic devices. They are generally unrestricted and there is no tracking done of who buys them or what they are going to use them for. The only limit on buying them is when the buyer and seller happen to be in different countries that have some sort of general trade restriction between them such as sanctions. These are the countries that Iran has over $1B/year in imports from: China, UAE, India, Turkey, Germany, Switzerland, South Korea, Russia, Italy, UK, Netherlands, and France. As far as I know there are no restrictions on US companies selling these components to buyers or distributors in at least 2/3 of those countries. Iran can probably just order from distributors in many of them, or have someone in one of those countries buy the components and ship them to Iran. Keeping these components out of Iran is about as difficult as keeping something like nails from a US company or USB cables from a US company out of Iran.
- dmix 4y ago
  Indeed, US sanctions can only increase the costs and lower access to advanced high end tech of domestic Iran defence industry. This still has serious consequences, especially long term and extends well beyond the miltary... Even if the miscellaneous run of the mill electronics aren't controllable.
kube-system 4y ago
We ship brand new parts to China too. No need for recycled parts.