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I disagree that we're at peak monetization (see what the price of a premium cable package used to be) Since you mention Spotify I'm super happy with it. It's b

I disagree that we're at peak monetization (see what the price of a premium cable package used to be) Since you mention Spotify I'm super happy with it. It's basically everything I ever wanted consistently. Can recommend new music better than any person I know, and I can feed it any song that I and somebody else like as a radio station and get a pretty decent list of songs we both don't mind. Granted I don't listen to music as many hours as I did when I was young, but that's just me changing I think. I feel like video games are actually often underpriced if you wait for a steam sale. I think child me would be blown away by the fact I can buy a game 10x better than mario 3 for 1/10th the price of Mario 3 ($50). I'm talking Baba is You, or Hollow Knight is 7.49 right now, or Slay The Spire is 8.49 right now. When I grew up I had "Gauntlet" which had some traits/bugs that made it nearly unwinnable without a guide, even by old standards. In TV I think there's more of an argument to be had, and if you had only said TV I think this would be an interesting discussion, but if you think it's everything I think the more likely explanation is it's a you thing (maybe just not as easy to please anymore and upset at the media for not giving you that same magical feeling).

josephg 4y ago
I’ve been a Spotify premium customer for years. For music discovery, they’re incredible. But I really hate two things about Spotify: 1. Sometimes music I have in playlists disappears, for licensing reasons. I understand the reasoning but it makes me irrationally angry 2. There’s still no way to remove playlists from the home screen. No, spotify, I still don’t want to listen to your Dad Jokes podcast. I feel like some bozo product manager has had a bonus package attached to podcast listens and he’s doing what he can to get more podcast listens, instead of making me (the customer) happy. I’m considering going back to a bespoke mp3 collection again. Something about it feels better. It feels like mine.
- enumjorge 4y ago
  I’ve been making playlist for years, and I’ve noticed Spotify mangle songs on some of the older ones. Like one of my earliest playlist now contains a few tracks of super obscure jazz from the 40s that I’m pretty sure I never added. What they replaced I’ll never know.
  - pnt12 4y ago
    That's never happened to me, but I'd hate if it did! Could this be an error from the producer? Or, dumb question, did it start playing related songs after?
- Legogris 4y ago
  On 2, what really grinds my gears is that some of that content is tied to the country of your funding payment method, including podcasts in a language you don't speak about local politics on the other side of the world.
- rpastuszak 4y ago
  > No, spotify, I still don’t want to listen to your Dad Jokes podcast. I feel like some bozo product manager has had a bonus package attached to podcast listens and he’s doing what he can to get more podcast listens, instead of making me (the customer) happy. Two things I have an issue with when it comes to Spotify and podcasts: 1. Podcasts are _still_ open and distributed via RSS. They're probably the last medium to truly exist in this way in a mainstream fashion. With a company like Spotify "embrace, extend, extinguish", then putting podcasts behind a walled garden is a real risk. (Remember when Chrome was the cool and hip browser instead of an ad space?) 2. The annoying, pushy UX (you're making my music listening experience worse) Given 2., it's hard for me to imagine that 1. isn't a wet dream of some myopic, OKR-obsessed product person at Spotify.
- Too 4y ago
  Nr 2 is just bizzare. I pay premium to not get ads and as a thank you I am constantly bombarded with other ads, ehum…sorry…suggestions, for bad podcasts. Wtf. Otherwise Spotify is one of things I am happy to pay subscription for. Sure it sucks a bit when some good songs go away, but it’s rare and there are thousands of other songs that I like and never have time to listen to anyway, it all just works, has great suggestions and is super convenient otherwise, outweighing the few negatives. Hoarding mp3s and syncing to devices just in case one out of thousand favorites go away simply isn’t worth the time anymore. For nostalgia reasons my old teenage mp3 collection is enough and can double as providing local music needs in case of a zombie apocalypse.
  - TheHappyOddish 4y ago
    Absolutely agree RE podcasts. These are ads, which I pay not to see.
- juniperplant 4y ago
  There's an option that allows to keep showing unavailable tracks. They appear greyed out and are not playable, but at least you know they're there.
jesuscript 4y ago
It can’t just be a me thing because when piracy showed up, it became a everyone thing. For it to return, it would return for all of us at the same time. The monetized ecosystems will metastasize to a point where everyone will go ‘the fuck? I think not’.
kaba0 4y ago
Not too relevant to the topic, but I can’t be the only person who seems to be inside a “music bubble”, and constantly get recommended the same deal of songs? Though I also have “liked music” be pretty buggy, it used to be the case that “download offline” added the songs to my liked list as well, so I got plenty of songs I didn’t like that much added that I only recently managed to clear out.. maybe I should wipe clean my profile?
Digory 4y ago
It will be interesting to see how sports (NFL, especially) shakes out. Sports was always the biggest cost of a cable subscription. Amazon bought Thursday night NFL rights for $1 billion a year, just to get credibility. That's $12.50 for every active Prime Video user.

josephg 4y ago

I’ve been a Spotify premium customer for years. For music discovery, they’re incredible. But I really hate two things about Spotify: 1. Sometimes music I have in playlists disappears, for licensing reasons. I understand the reasoning but it makes me irrationally angry 2. There’s still no way to remove playlists from the home screen. No, spotify, I still don’t want to listen to your Dad Jokes podcast. I feel like some bozo product manager has had a bonus package attached to podcast listens and he’s doing what he can to get more podcast listens, instead of making me (the customer) happy. I’m considering going back to a bespoke mp3 collection again. Something about it feels better. It feels like mine.

enumjorge 4y ago
I’ve been making playlist for years, and I’ve noticed Spotify mangle songs on some of the older ones. Like one of my earliest playlist now contains a few tracks of super obscure jazz from the 40s that I’m pretty sure I never added. What they replaced I’ll never know.
- pnt12 4y ago
  That's never happened to me, but I'd hate if it did! Could this be an error from the producer? Or, dumb question, did it start playing related songs after?
Legogris 4y ago
On 2, what really grinds my gears is that some of that content is tied to the country of your funding payment method, including podcasts in a language you don't speak about local politics on the other side of the world.
rpastuszak 4y ago
> No, spotify, I still don’t want to listen to your Dad Jokes podcast. I feel like some bozo product manager has had a bonus package attached to podcast listens and he’s doing what he can to get more podcast listens, instead of making me (the customer) happy. Two things I have an issue with when it comes to Spotify and podcasts: 1. Podcasts are _still_ open and distributed via RSS. They're probably the last medium to truly exist in this way in a mainstream fashion. With a company like Spotify "embrace, extend, extinguish", then putting podcasts behind a walled garden is a real risk. (Remember when Chrome was the cool and hip browser instead of an ad space?) 2. The annoying, pushy UX (you're making my music listening experience worse) Given 2., it's hard for me to imagine that 1. isn't a wet dream of some myopic, OKR-obsessed product person at Spotify.
Too 4y ago
Nr 2 is just bizzare. I pay premium to not get ads and as a thank you I am constantly bombarded with other ads, ehum…sorry…suggestions, for bad podcasts. Wtf. Otherwise Spotify is one of things I am happy to pay subscription for. Sure it sucks a bit when some good songs go away, but it’s rare and there are thousands of other songs that I like and never have time to listen to anyway, it all just works, has great suggestions and is super convenient otherwise, outweighing the few negatives. Hoarding mp3s and syncing to devices just in case one out of thousand favorites go away simply isn’t worth the time anymore. For nostalgia reasons my old teenage mp3 collection is enough and can double as providing local music needs in case of a zombie apocalypse.
- TheHappyOddish 4y ago
  Absolutely agree RE podcasts. These are ads, which I pay not to see.
juniperplant 4y ago
There's an option that allows to keep showing unavailable tracks. They appear greyed out and are not playable, but at least you know they're there.

jesuscript 4y ago

It can’t just be a me thing because when piracy showed up, it became a everyone thing. For it to return, it would return for all of us at the same time. The monetized ecosystems will metastasize to a point where everyone will go ‘the fuck? I think not’.

kaba0 4y ago

Not too relevant to the topic, but I can’t be the only person who seems to be inside a “music bubble”, and constantly get recommended the same deal of songs? Though I also have “liked music” be pretty buggy, it used to be the case that “download offline” added the songs to my liked list as well, so I got plenty of songs I didn’t like that much added that I only recently managed to clear out.. maybe I should wipe clean my profile?

Digory 4y ago

It will be interesting to see how sports (NFL, especially) shakes out. Sports was always the biggest cost of a cable subscription. Amazon bought Thursday night NFL rights for $1 billion a year, just to get credibility. That's $12.50 for every active Prime Video user.