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Reddit thread here : https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/103upr6/automatic1111_github_repository_removed/ https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion

Reddit thread here : https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/103upr6/automatic1111_github_repository_removed/ https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/103upr6/au... update: Gitgud repo created here : https://gitgud.io/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui https://gitgud.io/AUTOMATIC1111/stable-diffusion-webui (Gitgud seems to be really slow) Further update : Account was suspended due to "TOS violations" : https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/103uwx1/automatic1111_account_and_webui_repository/ https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/103uwx1/au...

ashirviskas 4y ago
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- cypress66 4y ago
  I checked one at random and he's not black Mati Klarwein
  - Semaphor 4y ago
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    - cypress66 4y ago
      I see what you mean. I don't think it's racist though if you're classifying artists by their style, to classify those that focus on painting black people with that kind of style as such. Because you're classifying the style, not the artists' skin color (and there's logically a correlation between black artists and artists that focus on depicting black people). You could argue maybe that using the letter "n" could be seen as racist. It's a US centric view however, in other places n would be fine (n for negro in Spanish for example) For all I know automatic might be super racist, I'm just playing devils advocate, and I like to assume the best of in people.
      - violini 4y ago
        I think the main problem here is that people are enjoying the witch hunt too much, and this prevents them from weighting up alternative explanations that aren't as dramatic. My first assumption on encountering a table field with a standalone "n" would be that it's an abbreviation of "no". So I'm surprised people are assuming so strongly here that this is instead code for a racist word. This is quite a harsh accusation, given the lack of evidence. It will be quite embarrassing all round if this just turns out to be a run-of-the-mill copyright strike, or similar.
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        vintermann 4y ago
        Fine. But you don't have to go with your first assumption. If, say, the guy had made mods smirking at the George Floyd protests, had made skin-color mods, and had also said "no comment" when asked what the 'n' and 'c' tags represented, would you still go with your first assumption? That he's clearly more than a little racist isn't enough for me to defend nuking the guy's account without warning or explanation. But it is enough to make me think twice about blindly downloading and running the guy's code (which also downloads a lot of stuff). Who knows what other norms of basic decency this anonymous person from 4chan would violate. Edit: apparently all the git pulling and bash+curling happens during install, and not fully automatically afterwards. It does not strictly speaking self-update.
        Filligree 4y ago
        > My first assumption on encountering a table field with a standalone "n" would be that it's an abbreviation of "no". So I'm surprised people are assuming so strongly here that this is instead code for a racist word. This is quite a harsh accusation, given the lack of evidence. So I loaded up A111, selected the 'n' category, and ran a few pictures using random artists from said category. The results were all black. The category itself is actually useful to me, now that I know it exists — I use the AI to generate illustrations for my fanfiction, and getting non-white, non-asian outputs is difficult at best — but labelling it "n" is, uh, suspicious. In combination with everything else, I don't think there's really any doubts about his thought process here. :(
  - input_sh 4y ago
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    - cypress66 4y ago
      It was 100% random. I'm surprised from a reddit thread that somebody else mentioned this Mati as a counter example as well, so maybe the one I randomly picked was an outlier, or maybe because of the csv "layout" that one stood out more to me and to other people.
      - Filligree 4y ago
        It's a list of artists who, if applied to stable diffusion prompting, generates art of black people. Not a list of black artists.
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  - joshuaissac 4y ago
    I checked a few more at random: * Bill Jacklin * Hiroshi Sugomoto * Josef Albers * David Teniers the Younger None of them are black. Edit: As eyko pointed out below, these are not in the 'n' category. So I searched for people in that category, and all the ones I checked turned out to have been black (other than Mati Klarwein).
    - eyko 4y ago
      None of those are under the `n` category, though.
    - ilyt 4y ago
      Reddit thread suggested they might be ones drawing black people, not ones being black
    - longbilly 4y ago
      This is a full list of all the 'n' entries in the latest artists.csv Howardena Pindell,0.7686921,n Mati Klarwein,0.7066092,n Barkley L. Hendricks,0.69986427,n Carrie Mae Weems,0.6645416,n Barkley Hendricks,0.6883637,n Yinka Shonibare,0.68256056,n Zanele Muholi,0.58554715,n Kehinde Wiley,0.66218376,n RETNA (Marquis Lewis),0.47963,n Wangechi Mutu,0.6394607,n Kadir Nelson,0.5669006,n Amadou Opa Bathily,0.5536976,n Juliana Huxtable,0.5364195,n Chinwe Chukwuogo-Roy,0.49445248,n Teophilus Tetteh,0.46064255,n Bruce Onobrakpeya,0.42588046,n
- input_sh 4y ago
  How would it be a coincidence? Looking through that file, I can't think of a single charitable interpretation for that categorization.
  - proto-n 4y ago
    Yeah. Did some digging, apparently the user stated that "n and c are no comment" [1]. From context its not clear whether they don't want to comment, or if the characters literally stand for "no comment". But to me it seems the former: it appears it's not necessarily about the author, but what the art depicts. C seems to be children. [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/xl8bj2/automatic1111_webui_random_artist_category_for/ipi24ct/ https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/xl8bj2/aut...
  - gitfan86 4y ago
    It is extremely common for programmers to use short names while coding. I use "const r" a lot instead of "const results". Do you think I'm doing that because I hate a group of people that are called a derogatory word that begins with r?
    - ceejayoz 4y ago
      If it was the variable name for an array of famous autistic people, it might raise eyebrows, especially if coupled with other coincidences.
      - knewter 4y ago
        "I've inferred 90% of a word you didn't write. Verdict is you're racist."
        ceejayoz 4y ago
        Again, there’s more alleged than just the “n” thing; screenshots of Rimworld titled “Auschwitz”, modding the game by race, mockery of the George Floyd protests. Sometimes we infer things from a combination of evidence.
- throwaway0x7E6 4y ago
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- KMnO4 4y ago
  Why is that of note? It doesn’t explain anything related to GitHub’s takedown of the repository.
orra 4y ago
Reading that thead, https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/103upr6/comment/j319m3k/ https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/103upr6/co... says the user could have been banned for racism. We're not talking subtle stuff, either.
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rjh29 4y ago
> A possible reason are the apparently racist game mods he'd also been creating on the same account, including removing any non-white characters from Rimworld and a mod called 'peaceful protests' which is seemingly criticizing the valid upset about George Floyd's murder by the state.
- tablespoon 4y ago
  > ...a mod called 'peaceful protests' which is seemingly criticizing the valid upset about George Floyd's murder by the state. If that that's the ban reason, it's pretty Orwellian. There was a lot of severe property destruction (e.g. arson) during those protests, some of which was indisputably committed by people aligned with the protests. They were complicated events, with peaceful and violent parts. They were only one or the other when seen through a blinkered political orthodoxy.
chrismorgan 4y ago
I’ve never heard of GitGud.io, so I took a look at their home page/login page. Wow a lot of those claims are bad: > Free - Yes, totally free for any user or group Such claims are invariably false. Or, stated most generously, heavily misleading, because of limitations. And that’s even ignoring the common “it became popular and we realised what we were offering wasn’t sustainable so we’re charging or limiting sharply or shutting down” result. > Fast - One of the fastest git hosting services Holistically, I’d say this isn’t even possible if you’re using GitLab. Significant parts of GitLab are very slow. And as for GitGud.io at present, well, that repository’s URL is consistently taking about ten seconds to send the first byte of the response, and even HEAD / takes more than five seconds to issue a 302 redirect to /users/sign_in. > Highly available - average uptime of 99.83% ¹ Look, “highly available” is a vague term, but for this kind of service I’d expect it to mean three nines at the very least, probably four, and to mean an architecture and upgrade deployment mechanism significantly different from GitLab’s, where upgrades are disruptive. Also, their actual status page is currently saying 91.16% for the last 24 hours (2h7m of downtime), which is already more than two months’ downtime budget even at 99.83%. > Reliable - We have never lost any data, unlike other services You also probably haven’t dealt with any of the scale-related issues that have caused data loss in said Other Services.
- Drybones 4y ago
  Hi, owner of GitGud.io here >>Free - Yes, totally free for any user or group >Such claims are invariably false. Or, stated most generously, heavily misleading, because of limitations. Can you explain your issue with this? GitGud.io has been operating for over 8 years with only free accounts and without any paid setup. Historically we've been supported by user donations, but I now also pay out of pocket, a relatively trivial amount since my main job is being a DevOps engineer for a CDN & cloud company, for server resources and upgrades for GitGud.io and we have plans to launch SaaS products that will completely offset any GitGud.io costs. >>Fast - One of the fastest git hosting services >Holistically, I’d say this isn’t even possible if you’re using GitLab. Significant parts of GitLab are very slow. And as for GitGud.io at present, well, that repository’s URL is consistently taking about ten seconds to send the first byte of the response, and even HEAD / takes more than five seconds to issue a 302 redirect to /users/sign_in. GitGud.io has historically been fast. Currently we just finished an upgrade of the main node last week from an 8-core Epyc to a 64-core Epyc, plus 2-3x more available memory and we have not had enough traffic to adjust this. This event helped us tune GitLab better to our new resources. And yes, as someone who has been working with GitLab for over 8 years, I know exactly how slow and bloated it is, but you must also understand that GitLab.com itself spent years being constantly down or hardly loading in comparison. Different scales of "users", but GitGud.io still has 41,000 users and close to 15,000 repositories. You'd be hard pressed to find many other GitLab instances publicly usable that big. We could utilize Gitea or something lighter, but GitLab offers a lot of features and Gitea didn't exist when we started. >> Highly available - average uptime of 99.83% ¹ >Look, “highly available” is a vague term, but for this kind of service I’d expect it to mean three nines at the very least, probably four, and to mean an architecture and upgrade deployment mechanism significantly different from GitLab’s, where upgrades are disruptive. >Also, their actual status page is currently saying 91.16% for the last 24 hours (2h7m of downtime), which is already more than two months’ downtime budget even at 99.83%. Yes, cause currently we currently took the host node down 12 hours ago for a couple of hours in a planned hardware upgrade maintenance to install new 40g NICs, SSDs, etc. Overall the average is decent, and this line harkens back to the days when GitLab.com was down daily. We run on our own bare metal colo servers, not magically appearing cloud instances. >> Reliable - We have never lost any data, unlike other services >You also probably haven’t dealt with any of the scale-related issues that have caused data loss in said Other Services. Their scale outs should have made it harder to lose data, not the other way around. We've also have ran a fairly large file/media sharing site in the form of Imgur with dozens of TBs of user uploaded media scaled across several servers, and we didn't lose data there. Fact is, we haven't lost any data and that's our track record so far over the past 8 years. I think that's worth of some note. Either way, while the homepage claims are eyebrow raising for you, I don't see how this matters much for a service that is charging $0 for Git repo hosting. We make $0 for any user who decides to utilize us. If we wanted to charge for GitGud.io access and it's GitLab CI runner access, we could. There's nothing stopping us from doing that. But even if we disappeared tomorrow, the fact is that Git is naturally decentralized. The original creators and the clones exist somewhere. We exist as an alternative to other services that suspend accounts on a whim and an easy solution for those that don't want to setup or pay for their own Git instance.
nigamanth 4y ago
Any GitLab or BitBucket repos for the same?

ashirviskas 4y ago

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cypress66 4y ago
I checked one at random and he's not black Mati Klarwein
- Semaphor 4y ago
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  - cypress66 4y ago
    I see what you mean. I don't think it's racist though if you're classifying artists by their style, to classify those that focus on painting black people with that kind of style as such. Because you're classifying the style, not the artists' skin color (and there's logically a correlation between black artists and artists that focus on depicting black people). You could argue maybe that using the letter "n" could be seen as racist. It's a US centric view however, in other places n would be fine (n for negro in Spanish for example) For all I know automatic might be super racist, I'm just playing devils advocate, and I like to assume the best of in people.
    - violini 4y ago
      I think the main problem here is that people are enjoying the witch hunt too much, and this prevents them from weighting up alternative explanations that aren't as dramatic. My first assumption on encountering a table field with a standalone "n" would be that it's an abbreviation of "no". So I'm surprised people are assuming so strongly here that this is instead code for a racist word. This is quite a harsh accusation, given the lack of evidence. It will be quite embarrassing all round if this just turns out to be a run-of-the-mill copyright strike, or similar.
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      - vintermann 4y ago
        Fine. But you don't have to go with your first assumption. If, say, the guy had made mods smirking at the George Floyd protests, had made skin-color mods, and had also said "no comment" when asked what the 'n' and 'c' tags represented, would you still go with your first assumption? That he's clearly more than a little racist isn't enough for me to defend nuking the guy's account without warning or explanation. But it is enough to make me think twice about blindly downloading and running the guy's code (which also downloads a lot of stuff). Who knows what other norms of basic decency this anonymous person from 4chan would violate. Edit: apparently all the git pulling and bash+curling happens during install, and not fully automatically afterwards. It does not strictly speaking self-update.
      - Filligree 4y ago
        > My first assumption on encountering a table field with a standalone "n" would be that it's an abbreviation of "no". So I'm surprised people are assuming so strongly here that this is instead code for a racist word. This is quite a harsh accusation, given the lack of evidence. So I loaded up A111, selected the 'n' category, and ran a few pictures using random artists from said category. The results were all black. The category itself is actually useful to me, now that I know it exists — I use the AI to generate illustrations for my fanfiction, and getting non-white, non-asian outputs is difficult at best — but labelling it "n" is, uh, suspicious. In combination with everything else, I don't think there's really any doubts about his thought process here. :(
- input_sh 4y ago
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  - cypress66 4y ago
    It was 100% random. I'm surprised from a reddit thread that somebody else mentioned this Mati as a counter example as well, so maybe the one I randomly picked was an outlier, or maybe because of the csv "layout" that one stood out more to me and to other people.
    - Filligree 4y ago
      It's a list of artists who, if applied to stable diffusion prompting, generates art of black people. Not a list of black artists.
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- joshuaissac 4y ago
  I checked a few more at random: * Bill Jacklin * Hiroshi Sugomoto * Josef Albers * David Teniers the Younger None of them are black. Edit: As eyko pointed out below, these are not in the 'n' category. So I searched for people in that category, and all the ones I checked turned out to have been black (other than Mati Klarwein).
  - eyko 4y ago
    None of those are under the `n` category, though.
  - ilyt 4y ago
    Reddit thread suggested they might be ones drawing black people, not ones being black
  - longbilly 4y ago
    This is a full list of all the 'n' entries in the latest artists.csv Howardena Pindell,0.7686921,n Mati Klarwein,0.7066092,n Barkley L. Hendricks,0.69986427,n Carrie Mae Weems,0.6645416,n Barkley Hendricks,0.6883637,n Yinka Shonibare,0.68256056,n Zanele Muholi,0.58554715,n Kehinde Wiley,0.66218376,n RETNA (Marquis Lewis),0.47963,n Wangechi Mutu,0.6394607,n Kadir Nelson,0.5669006,n Amadou Opa Bathily,0.5536976,n Juliana Huxtable,0.5364195,n Chinwe Chukwuogo-Roy,0.49445248,n Teophilus Tetteh,0.46064255,n Bruce Onobrakpeya,0.42588046,n
input_sh 4y ago
How would it be a coincidence? Looking through that file, I can't think of a single charitable interpretation for that categorization.
- proto-n 4y ago
  Yeah. Did some digging, apparently the user stated that "n and c are no comment" [1]. From context its not clear whether they don't want to comment, or if the characters literally stand for "no comment". But to me it seems the former: it appears it's not necessarily about the author, but what the art depicts. C seems to be children. [1] https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/xl8bj2/automatic1111_webui_random_artist_category_for/ipi24ct/ https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/xl8bj2/aut...
- gitfan86 4y ago
  It is extremely common for programmers to use short names while coding. I use "const r" a lot instead of "const results". Do you think I'm doing that because I hate a group of people that are called a derogatory word that begins with r?
  - ceejayoz 4y ago
    If it was the variable name for an array of famous autistic people, it might raise eyebrows, especially if coupled with other coincidences.
    - knewter 4y ago
      "I've inferred 90% of a word you didn't write. Verdict is you're racist."
      - ceejayoz 4y ago
        Again, there’s more alleged than just the “n” thing; screenshots of Rimworld titled “Auschwitz”, modding the game by race, mockery of the George Floyd protests. Sometimes we infer things from a combination of evidence.
throwaway0x7E6 4y ago
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KMnO4 4y ago
Why is that of note? It doesn’t explain anything related to GitHub’s takedown of the repository.

orra 4y ago

Reading that thead, https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/103upr6/comment/j319m3k/ https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/103upr6/co... says the user could have been banned for racism. We're not talking subtle stuff, either.

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rjh29 4y ago

> A possible reason are the apparently racist game mods he'd also been creating on the same account, including removing any non-white characters from Rimworld and a mod called 'peaceful protests' which is seemingly criticizing the valid upset about George Floyd's murder by the state.

tablespoon 4y ago
> ...a mod called 'peaceful protests' which is seemingly criticizing the valid upset about George Floyd's murder by the state. If that that's the ban reason, it's pretty Orwellian. There was a lot of severe property destruction (e.g. arson) during those protests, some of which was indisputably committed by people aligned with the protests. They were complicated events, with peaceful and violent parts. They were only one or the other when seen through a blinkered political orthodoxy.

chrismorgan 4y ago

I’ve never heard of GitGud.io, so I took a look at their home page/login page. Wow a lot of those claims are bad: > Free - Yes, totally free for any user or group Such claims are invariably false. Or, stated most generously, heavily misleading, because of limitations. And that’s even ignoring the common “it became popular and we realised what we were offering wasn’t sustainable so we’re charging or limiting sharply or shutting down” result. > Fast - One of the fastest git hosting services Holistically, I’d say this isn’t even possible if you’re using GitLab. Significant parts of GitLab are very slow. And as for GitGud.io at present, well, that repository’s URL is consistently taking about ten seconds to send the first byte of the response, and even HEAD / takes more than five seconds to issue a 302 redirect to /users/sign_in. > Highly available - average uptime of 99.83% ¹ Look, “highly available” is a vague term, but for this kind of service I’d expect it to mean three nines at the very least, probably four, and to mean an architecture and upgrade deployment mechanism significantly different from GitLab’s, where upgrades are disruptive. Also, their actual status page is currently saying 91.16% for the last 24 hours (2h7m of downtime), which is already more than two months’ downtime budget even at 99.83%. > Reliable - We have never lost any data, unlike other services You also probably haven’t dealt with any of the scale-related issues that have caused data loss in said Other Services.

Drybones 4y ago
Hi, owner of GitGud.io here >>Free - Yes, totally free for any user or group >Such claims are invariably false. Or, stated most generously, heavily misleading, because of limitations. Can you explain your issue with this? GitGud.io has been operating for over 8 years with only free accounts and without any paid setup. Historically we've been supported by user donations, but I now also pay out of pocket, a relatively trivial amount since my main job is being a DevOps engineer for a CDN & cloud company, for server resources and upgrades for GitGud.io and we have plans to launch SaaS products that will completely offset any GitGud.io costs. >>Fast - One of the fastest git hosting services >Holistically, I’d say this isn’t even possible if you’re using GitLab. Significant parts of GitLab are very slow. And as for GitGud.io at present, well, that repository’s URL is consistently taking about ten seconds to send the first byte of the response, and even HEAD / takes more than five seconds to issue a 302 redirect to /users/sign_in. GitGud.io has historically been fast. Currently we just finished an upgrade of the main node last week from an 8-core Epyc to a 64-core Epyc, plus 2-3x more available memory and we have not had enough traffic to adjust this. This event helped us tune GitLab better to our new resources. And yes, as someone who has been working with GitLab for over 8 years, I know exactly how slow and bloated it is, but you must also understand that GitLab.com itself spent years being constantly down or hardly loading in comparison. Different scales of "users", but GitGud.io still has 41,000 users and close to 15,000 repositories. You'd be hard pressed to find many other GitLab instances publicly usable that big. We could utilize Gitea or something lighter, but GitLab offers a lot of features and Gitea didn't exist when we started. >> Highly available - average uptime of 99.83% ¹ >Look, “highly available” is a vague term, but for this kind of service I’d expect it to mean three nines at the very least, probably four, and to mean an architecture and upgrade deployment mechanism significantly different from GitLab’s, where upgrades are disruptive. >Also, their actual status page is currently saying 91.16% for the last 24 hours (2h7m of downtime), which is already more than two months’ downtime budget even at 99.83%. Yes, cause currently we currently took the host node down 12 hours ago for a couple of hours in a planned hardware upgrade maintenance to install new 40g NICs, SSDs, etc. Overall the average is decent, and this line harkens back to the days when GitLab.com was down daily. We run on our own bare metal colo servers, not magically appearing cloud instances. >> Reliable - We have never lost any data, unlike other services >You also probably haven’t dealt with any of the scale-related issues that have caused data loss in said Other Services. Their scale outs should have made it harder to lose data, not the other way around. We've also have ran a fairly large file/media sharing site in the form of Imgur with dozens of TBs of user uploaded media scaled across several servers, and we didn't lose data there. Fact is, we haven't lost any data and that's our track record so far over the past 8 years. I think that's worth of some note. Either way, while the homepage claims are eyebrow raising for you, I don't see how this matters much for a service that is charging $0 for Git repo hosting. We make $0 for any user who decides to utilize us. If we wanted to charge for GitGud.io access and it's GitLab CI runner access, we could. There's nothing stopping us from doing that. But even if we disappeared tomorrow, the fact is that Git is naturally decentralized. The original creators and the clones exist somewhere. We exist as an alternative to other services that suspend accounts on a whim and an easy solution for those that don't want to setup or pay for their own Git instance.

nigamanth 4y ago

Any GitLab or BitBucket repos for the same?