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You treat it like a foregone conclusion that sooner or later we'll all be married with children. I personally cannot think of a single logical reason for bringi

by tdavis 18y ago

You treat it like a foregone conclusion that sooner or later we'll all be married with children. I personally cannot think of a single logical reason for bringing another human being into this world. Sounds like an easy way to ruin a perfectly fun life.

run4yourlives 18y ago
I didn't think so either in my early to mid twenties. I'm not saying that everyone will have kids, but this whole discussion is about generalities, and the consensus is that most people will have kids. It doesn't get any wilder than the boomers, and more of them had kids than any other generation previously.
- smanek 18y ago
  You should look into the Bulverism Fallacy.
  - run4yourlives 18y ago
    You'd need to see negative TFR's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_fertility_rate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_fertility_rate)(http://indexmundi.com/united_states/birth_rate.html http://indexmundi.com/united_states/birth_rate.html) to even suggest that most people aren't having kids. Sometimes, the obvious is exactly that.
  - 13ren 18y ago
    I jumped into the middle of this discussion, so I'm not commenting on whether the Bulverism is applicable here. But I really wanted to thank you for pointing it out. I've recently become more aware of how easily my own thinking can get knotted up in opinions, and get distracted from the facts or the actual problem. I have a limited short-term memory, and the issue itself can get pushed out - temporarily or permanently - without me realizing it (especially when emotions engage). Scary. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulverism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulverism
time_management 18y ago
Although this is going to offend many people, I think a lot of people have kids because it is a dated decision, and people are forced to act before they are really ready to decide if it's the right path for them. The human lifespan's short, and fertility/gamete quality declines. Most people aren't economically ready to have kids until 30... but also want to make it to their grandkids' weddings, and given the reality of the human lifespan, this leaves a very short window in which the decision can be made, by people who are really too young to make it.

by tdavis 18y ago

run4yourlives 18y ago

I didn't think so either in my early to mid twenties. I'm not saying that everyone will have kids, but this whole discussion is about generalities, and the consensus is that most people will have kids. It doesn't get any wilder than the boomers, and more of them had kids than any other generation previously.

smanek 18y ago
You should look into the Bulverism Fallacy.
- run4yourlives 18y ago
  You'd need to see negative TFR's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_fertility_rate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_fertility_rate)(http://indexmundi.com/united_states/birth_rate.html http://indexmundi.com/united_states/birth_rate.html) to even suggest that most people aren't having kids. Sometimes, the obvious is exactly that.
- 13ren 18y ago
  I jumped into the middle of this discussion, so I'm not commenting on whether the Bulverism is applicable here. But I really wanted to thank you for pointing it out. I've recently become more aware of how easily my own thinking can get knotted up in opinions, and get distracted from the facts or the actual problem. I have a limited short-term memory, and the issue itself can get pushed out - temporarily or permanently - without me realizing it (especially when emotions engage). Scary. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulverism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulverism

time_management 18y ago

Although this is going to offend many people, I think a lot of people have kids because it is a dated decision, and people are forced to act before they are really ready to decide if it's the right path for them. The human lifespan's short, and fertility/gamete quality declines. Most people aren't economically ready to have kids until 30... but also want to make it to their grandkids' weddings, and given the reality of the human lifespan, this leaves a very short window in which the decision can be made, by people who are really too young to make it.