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Guy loses all credibility when he's tagging Taylor Lorenz. This is an attention play, nothing more.

maxbond 4y ago
Sure, tagging journalists is "an attention play" - doesn't mean he's lying, or that this isn't an issue that deserves attention. It's also an "attention play" when people post here telling their story about getting locked out of their decade-old Gmail account hoping someone can help them - it's the same principle here, the only way they're getting their 3 months pay is if it garners sufficient attention.
- andrew_ 4y ago
  You think that tagging Lorenz is an equivalent to people posting for help on HN? She's a known antagonist with no morals or journalistic integrity. That's quite the insult to the HN community.
  - maxbond 4y ago
    No need to try and put words in my mouth. I never implied there was a moral equivalency between Lorenz (who I'm not familiar with) and the HN community. I said these were similar tactics. I gather from context he's tagging journalists who have covered Twitter recently. If you want to criticize his choice of journalists to tag, please do so. What I took issue with was your dismissing this as "an attention play," which read to me like you were implying that, because he tagged these journalists, we should summarily dismiss what he has to say. I don't take his tagging Lorenz as an endorsement of her reporting, but rather an excoriation for not covering the story in sufficient depth. Based on the thread I doubt they're a fan of Taibbi, who they also tagged, for example.
lamontcg 4y ago
"You tagged someone I don't like, your argument is invalid"
- andrew_ 4y ago
  that is nothing to do with dislike, and to suggest so is petty and shortsighted. that person has built a career on hypocritical, reactionary, sensational reporting. she has no moral or journalistic integrity, and represents everything that's wrong with modern journalism. she is an objectively negative influence on discourse and society. I don't take anyone seriously who uses a spray and pray method to garner attention on an issue, especially when the targets are people of such low quality.
  - lamontcg 4y ago
    None of that has anything to do with the actual validity of the complaint. If you can't see you're just spraying around your own prejudices (probably hypocritically) then I can't help you.

Sure, tagging journalists is "an attention play" - doesn't mean he's lying, or that this isn't an issue that deserves attention. It's also an "attention play" when people post here telling their story about getting locked out of their decade-old Gmail account hoping someone can help them - it's the same principle here, the only way they're getting their 3 months pay is if it garners sufficient attention.

andrew_ 4y ago
You think that tagging Lorenz is an equivalent to people posting for help on HN? She's a known antagonist with no morals or journalistic integrity. That's quite the insult to the HN community.
- maxbond 4y ago
  No need to try and put words in my mouth. I never implied there was a moral equivalency between Lorenz (who I'm not familiar with) and the HN community. I said these were similar tactics. I gather from context he's tagging journalists who have covered Twitter recently. If you want to criticize his choice of journalists to tag, please do so. What I took issue with was your dismissing this as "an attention play," which read to me like you were implying that, because he tagged these journalists, we should summarily dismiss what he has to say. I don't take his tagging Lorenz as an endorsement of her reporting, but rather an excoriation for not covering the story in sufficient depth. Based on the thread I doubt they're a fan of Taibbi, who they also tagged, for example.

lamontcg 4y ago

"You tagged someone I don't like, your argument is invalid"

andrew_ 4y ago
that is nothing to do with dislike, and to suggest so is petty and shortsighted. that person has built a career on hypocritical, reactionary, sensational reporting. she has no moral or journalistic integrity, and represents everything that's wrong with modern journalism. she is an objectively negative influence on discourse and society. I don't take anyone seriously who uses a spray and pray method to garner attention on an issue, especially when the targets are people of such low quality.
- lamontcg 4y ago
  None of that has anything to do with the actual validity of the complaint. If you can't see you're just spraying around your own prejudices (probably hypocritically) then I can't help you.