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This endless Musk pile-on is getting tiresome.

by prvc 4y ago

throwaway2729 4y ago
Sorry that people suffering is getting tiresome for you.
- JoeyBananas 4y ago
  "People suffering" That's not how I'd describe what this person is experiencing. We're talking about 3 months pay, not a mortal wound
brnt 4y ago
What's bad about scrutiny?
- brigandish 4y ago
  Nothing, if it’s insightful or provides facts or at least factually based musing that’s interesting. So little of these threads are any of that. In this page alone we have wild speculation and even a mental health diagnosis, which is always a sure sign of complete lack of insight. Some people here have asked questions (e.g. was the poster paid during those 2 months?) which require answers in order for actual scrutiny of Musk to occur and this to be worthy of HN, so the scrutiny right now should be of the Twitter post and then we can move on to Musk.
  - whendoyoushrink 4y ago
    I scrolled through this expecting to see a comment that this was just a mistake where someone forgot - after 2 years of a pandemic - to update their address, or the complete opposite and here are X examples of the same. Shame there is zero specific evidence. Heck, I would've even accepted a "WARN act {DOES|DOES NOT} require a severance letter. I assume you received your regular payments through {INSERT DATE HERE}?". The one fact I did see was that payments were through "Jan 4" according to borski: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34255522#:~:text=reply-,borski,-40%20minutes%20ago https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34255522#:~:text=reply-...
- biscottigelato 4y ago
  Scrutiny is fine. But how does saying "He's bipolar and just want attention" or "Second coming of Trump" add anything to the conversation? His intention was very clear to anyone that paid attention. Jordan Peterson was banned. Babylon Bee was banned. Sitting president was banned. An election swaying story was completely suppressed. There's only 1 side of the COVID conversation. Whether you think that's okay or not that's on you. But a lot of people are not okay with it, and one of them happens to be Elon. Yes he made a bad offer and the market crashed and he was stuck with it. Seems pretty logical to me. Nothing to do with attention seeking. And even he himself admits he f'cked up if not at least on the pricing and terms. So he's a rash crummy negotiator. But its not SpaceX rocket science what happened here. More logical than calling everything 'QAnon' and not able to add anything constructive to the discourse.
  - carlivar 4y ago
    I agree with you and as far as I am concerned, Twitter was broken pre-Musk. Not sure it's fixed, but it is better. Where better is closer to real free speech. BUT I hold this view while also loathing Musk's general behavior and personality. He is a petty tyrant and a scam artist. Mistreating employees and lying about it is the scam part (normal for Musk, who SWAT'd a Tesla whistleblower). The petty tyrant stuff is all the journalists he banned while supposedly being a free speech warrior.
- refurb 4y ago
  There is no scrutiny. It’s some random comment then a bunch of people jump in and fill in the blanks with whatever comes to mind.
  - cloudfifty 4y ago
    [dead]
outside1234 4y ago
I mean people are going to comment if you keep stepping in dogshit every day.
ssnistfajen 4y ago
Has Musk tried not making idiotic moves as a general nuisance masquerading as some sort of management genius? Don't do dumb/unethical/general assholery things in public and no one will "pile-on".
decremental 4y ago
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- wpietri 4y ago
  Up until The Apprentice, Trump was widely considered a clown. For example, in the '80s and '90s, NYC-based Spy Magazine made fun of him regularly: https://www.boweryboyshistory.com/2015/08/spy-vs-trump-the-best-donald-trump-moments-from-spy-magazine-1986-98.html https://www.boweryboyshistory.com/2015/08/spy-vs-trump-the-b... As with many notable people today (e.g. Kim Kardashian), reality TV drastically elevated his profile and gave him an enduring fan base.

This endless Musk pile-on is getting tiresome.

by prvc 4y ago

This endless Musk pile-on is getting tiresome.

throwaway2729 4y ago

Sorry that people suffering is getting tiresome for you.

JoeyBananas 4y ago
"People suffering" That's not how I'd describe what this person is experiencing. We're talking about 3 months pay, not a mortal wound

brnt 4y ago

What's bad about scrutiny?

brigandish 4y ago
Nothing, if it’s insightful or provides facts or at least factually based musing that’s interesting. So little of these threads are any of that. In this page alone we have wild speculation and even a mental health diagnosis, which is always a sure sign of complete lack of insight. Some people here have asked questions (e.g. was the poster paid during those 2 months?) which require answers in order for actual scrutiny of Musk to occur and this to be worthy of HN, so the scrutiny right now should be of the Twitter post and then we can move on to Musk.
- whendoyoushrink 4y ago
  I scrolled through this expecting to see a comment that this was just a mistake where someone forgot - after 2 years of a pandemic - to update their address, or the complete opposite and here are X examples of the same. Shame there is zero specific evidence. Heck, I would've even accepted a "WARN act {DOES|DOES NOT} require a severance letter. I assume you received your regular payments through {INSERT DATE HERE}?". The one fact I did see was that payments were through "Jan 4" according to borski: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34255522#:~:text=reply-,borski,-40%20minutes%20ago https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34255522#:~:text=reply-...
biscottigelato 4y ago
Scrutiny is fine. But how does saying "He's bipolar and just want attention" or "Second coming of Trump" add anything to the conversation? His intention was very clear to anyone that paid attention. Jordan Peterson was banned. Babylon Bee was banned. Sitting president was banned. An election swaying story was completely suppressed. There's only 1 side of the COVID conversation. Whether you think that's okay or not that's on you. But a lot of people are not okay with it, and one of them happens to be Elon. Yes he made a bad offer and the market crashed and he was stuck with it. Seems pretty logical to me. Nothing to do with attention seeking. And even he himself admits he f'cked up if not at least on the pricing and terms. So he's a rash crummy negotiator. But its not SpaceX rocket science what happened here. More logical than calling everything 'QAnon' and not able to add anything constructive to the discourse.
- carlivar 4y ago
  I agree with you and as far as I am concerned, Twitter was broken pre-Musk. Not sure it's fixed, but it is better. Where better is closer to real free speech. BUT I hold this view while also loathing Musk's general behavior and personality. He is a petty tyrant and a scam artist. Mistreating employees and lying about it is the scam part (normal for Musk, who SWAT'd a Tesla whistleblower). The petty tyrant stuff is all the journalists he banned while supposedly being a free speech warrior.
refurb 4y ago
There is no scrutiny. It’s some random comment then a bunch of people jump in and fill in the blanks with whatever comes to mind.
- cloudfifty 4y ago
  [dead]

outside1234 4y ago

I mean people are going to comment if you keep stepping in dogshit every day.

ssnistfajen 4y ago

Has Musk tried not making idiotic moves as a general nuisance masquerading as some sort of management genius? Don't do dumb/unethical/general assholery things in public and no one will "pile-on".

decremental 4y ago

[flagged]

wpietri 4y ago
Up until The Apprentice, Trump was widely considered a clown. For example, in the '80s and '90s, NYC-based Spy Magazine made fun of him regularly: https://www.boweryboyshistory.com/2015/08/spy-vs-trump-the-best-donald-trump-moments-from-spy-magazine-1986-98.html https://www.boweryboyshistory.com/2015/08/spy-vs-trump-the-b... As with many notable people today (e.g. Kim Kardashian), reality TV drastically elevated his profile and gave him an enduring fan base.