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You would think so but too many people get really comfortable and never expand their skills beyond the minimum required to do their current job. Last year I had

You would think so but too many people get really comfortable and never expand their skills beyond the minimum required to do their current job. Last year I had an SRE position open I had to interview over three dozen people before I found one guy who could explain anything he had done in any detail. Everybody else was probably in the room when someone else did something, but could not give details of what was done, why it was done a particular way, or what they might do the same or differently if they did it again. Some of the people I had to be honest with - if they are paying you the kind of money you say to reset passwords and stare at the wall, you should stay where you are and make sure that wall never leaves your sight.

10hr 4y ago
You've been reiterating this across a few threads this month, right? Perhaps it IS the widespread case that a lot of us are getting paid as SRE for much less than you believe an SRE should know. Ultimately, where you've set the bar is arbitrary
andirk 4y ago
I always wonder how people who are only in the room when things happen have any pride in their work and aren't embarrassed at their lack of production. A couple jobs ago was people who put most of their effort in to making sure their group of shitty engineers wasn't found out. It was a lot of work! Since they were all about quantity of people over any quality, they had to keep hiring more people, so there was a lot of time and effort in to interviewing to make sure they only hired other shitty engineers of their same ilk. I was hired outside of their scheme so we weren't best of friends lets say.
- zxcvbn4038 4y ago
  I’ve never understood the people who make no effort to better themselves - they work in technology, everything has a 3-5 year engineering life, they should always be preparing for the next thing. People often can’t control what technologies their employer uses, but if they have solid fundamentals and I can tell they have tried to learn things on their own, more often then not I’ll give them a chance, and it usually works out because they are doing what they really want to do, and they are always looking for ways to build upon and improve what they’ve worked on.
  - agentultra 4y ago
    How excellent do you want to be at generic enterprise CRUD apps? Somebody has to build and maintain them. Have you considered that maybe they’re fine with their level of responsibility and can leave work at the office?
    - zxcvbn4038 4y ago
      That is usually the part where I shake their hands and wish them luck in their next endeavor. If they are not there because they love working with technology, there are other places for them to be.
      - spoils19 4y ago
        Agreed. I personally have seen divorces and breakdowns of entire families and friend groups of my colleagues, but what is most important is making sure that they stay up-to-date with the latest technologies and look to further improve themselves for the company.
        deebosong 4y ago
        Dang you didn't have to do em like that!
        marcodave 4y ago
        spoils19 has been awarded +200 corp tokens, congratulations!
        htkibar 4y ago
        Dystopias happening right in front of us! Or… am I hearing a new web3 startup? (If I ever end up doing this; this comment will age super well)
        deterministic 4y ago
        Most definitely! There is nothing more glorious than sacrificing your health, soul, and personal relationships to perfect that CRUD application your users are forced to use to keep their job.
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10hr 4y ago

You've been reiterating this across a few threads this month, right? Perhaps it IS the widespread case that a lot of us are getting paid as SRE for much less than you believe an SRE should know. Ultimately, where you've set the bar is arbitrary

andirk 4y ago

I always wonder how people who are only in the room when things happen have any pride in their work and aren't embarrassed at their lack of production. A couple jobs ago was people who put most of their effort in to making sure their group of shitty engineers wasn't found out. It was a lot of work! Since they were all about quantity of people over any quality, they had to keep hiring more people, so there was a lot of time and effort in to interviewing to make sure they only hired other shitty engineers of their same ilk. I was hired outside of their scheme so we weren't best of friends lets say.

zxcvbn4038 4y ago
I’ve never understood the people who make no effort to better themselves - they work in technology, everything has a 3-5 year engineering life, they should always be preparing for the next thing. People often can’t control what technologies their employer uses, but if they have solid fundamentals and I can tell they have tried to learn things on their own, more often then not I’ll give them a chance, and it usually works out because they are doing what they really want to do, and they are always looking for ways to build upon and improve what they’ve worked on.
- agentultra 4y ago
  How excellent do you want to be at generic enterprise CRUD apps? Somebody has to build and maintain them. Have you considered that maybe they’re fine with their level of responsibility and can leave work at the office?
  - zxcvbn4038 4y ago
    That is usually the part where I shake their hands and wish them luck in their next endeavor. If they are not there because they love working with technology, there are other places for them to be.
    - spoils19 4y ago
      Agreed. I personally have seen divorces and breakdowns of entire families and friend groups of my colleagues, but what is most important is making sure that they stay up-to-date with the latest technologies and look to further improve themselves for the company.
      - deebosong 4y ago
        Dang you didn't have to do em like that!
      - marcodave 4y ago
        spoils19 has been awarded +200 corp tokens, congratulations!
        htkibar 4y ago
        Dystopias happening right in front of us! Or… am I hearing a new web3 startup? (If I ever end up doing this; this comment will age super well)
      - deterministic 4y ago
        Most definitely! There is nothing more glorious than sacrificing your health, soul, and personal relationships to perfect that CRUD application your users are forced to use to keep their job.
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