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What web3 stuff exists without crypto?

DonHopkins 4y ago
The original Web3 stuff that came less than a year after the Web2 stuff in the early 2000's, a few years before the web went to 11, two decades ago. Web3 sounds to me like antiquated nostalgia for something that happened at the turn of the century.
- braingenious 4y ago
  What, specifically, are you talking about?
  - nl 4y ago
    There was an attempt to make semantic web = web3.0 in around 2009 or so. Eg https://www.researchgate.net/publication/305443181_PROGRESSION_OF_WEB_30SEMANTIC_WEB_FROM_WEB_10_A_SURVEY https://www.researchgate.net/publication/305443181_PROGRESSI... (April 2009) It didn't really go anywhere. Web3 now is sort of a thing because one of the main Ethereum client libraries is called Web3: https://github.com/web3/web3.js https://github.com/web3/web3.js
    - braingenious 4y ago
      So, web3 doesn’t rely on crypto so long as you define the term in a way that’s inconsistent with how it’s basically universally used today?
      - nl 4y ago
        I think you are misinterpretating my comment! I specifically said 'It didn't really go anywhere" and pointed at the Ethereum (aka crypto) Web3 library! I was expanding on @DonHopkin's comment "The original Web3 stuff that came less than a year after the Web2 stuff in the early 2000's". In my view back then it was dumb (Web2.0 was still a new thing) and was just an attempt by the Semantic Web fans to get some hype. It didn't work. (For better or worse I work at a Web3 company so I'm reasonably aware of how it is used within that community today)
- leonidasv 4y ago
  You're confusing Semantic Web (also known as Web 3.0) with "web3". Wikipedia has a disambiguation page in this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_3.0 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_3.0
blondin 4y ago
many?! you think web3 is only about crypto?
- braingenious 4y ago
  Can you give examples of the many web3 projects that don’t involve crypto? If I’m uninformed, I’d need information to correct that.
  - blondin 4y ago
    yes, i can. from a simple search: https://sourceforge.net/software/web3/ https://sourceforge.net/software/web3/ it's a matter of understanding here. web3 is a set of technologies (decentralization, blockchains, etc.). once you understand that you know that with or without crypto it can stand on its own. (oh i mean cryptocurrency just in case you didn't get it).
    - acdha 4y ago
      Can you point to anything specific which you’ve actually used which isn’t a cryptocurrency sales vehicle? That page mentions “crypto”, “NFT”, “defi”, etc. many times.
    - braingenious 4y ago
      Can you give one (1) example of a web3 project (that doesn’t involve crypto) that you use/have contributed to/know anybody that uses? Most of the links in that arbitrary search page include crypto terms in the description, and I’m guessing that most (all?) of them include them after clicking through. You have personal knowledge of many web3 use cases that don’t involve crypto. Do you have a single example?
      - blondin 4y ago
        > Can you give one (1) example of a web3 project (that doesn’t involve crypto) that you use/have contributed to/know anybody that uses? no i won't. that page is enough for you. who are you?

The original Web3 stuff that came less than a year after the Web2 stuff in the early 2000's, a few years before the web went to 11, two decades ago. Web3 sounds to me like antiquated nostalgia for something that happened at the turn of the century.

braingenious 4y ago
What, specifically, are you talking about?
- nl 4y ago
  There was an attempt to make semantic web = web3.0 in around 2009 or so. Eg https://www.researchgate.net/publication/305443181_PROGRESSION_OF_WEB_30SEMANTIC_WEB_FROM_WEB_10_A_SURVEY https://www.researchgate.net/publication/305443181_PROGRESSI... (April 2009) It didn't really go anywhere. Web3 now is sort of a thing because one of the main Ethereum client libraries is called Web3: https://github.com/web3/web3.js https://github.com/web3/web3.js
  - braingenious 4y ago
    So, web3 doesn’t rely on crypto so long as you define the term in a way that’s inconsistent with how it’s basically universally used today?
    - nl 4y ago
      I think you are misinterpretating my comment! I specifically said 'It didn't really go anywhere" and pointed at the Ethereum (aka crypto) Web3 library! I was expanding on @DonHopkin's comment "The original Web3 stuff that came less than a year after the Web2 stuff in the early 2000's". In my view back then it was dumb (Web2.0 was still a new thing) and was just an attempt by the Semantic Web fans to get some hype. It didn't work. (For better or worse I work at a Web3 company so I'm reasonably aware of how it is used within that community today)
leonidasv 4y ago
You're confusing Semantic Web (also known as Web 3.0) with "web3". Wikipedia has a disambiguation page in this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_3.0 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_3.0

blondin 4y ago

many?! you think web3 is only about crypto?

braingenious 4y ago
Can you give examples of the many web3 projects that don’t involve crypto? If I’m uninformed, I’d need information to correct that.
- blondin 4y ago
  yes, i can. from a simple search: https://sourceforge.net/software/web3/ https://sourceforge.net/software/web3/ it's a matter of understanding here. web3 is a set of technologies (decentralization, blockchains, etc.). once you understand that you know that with or without crypto it can stand on its own. (oh i mean cryptocurrency just in case you didn't get it).
  - acdha 4y ago
    Can you point to anything specific which you’ve actually used which isn’t a cryptocurrency sales vehicle? That page mentions “crypto”, “NFT”, “defi”, etc. many times.
  - braingenious 4y ago
    Can you give one (1) example of a web3 project (that doesn’t involve crypto) that you use/have contributed to/know anybody that uses? Most of the links in that arbitrary search page include crypto terms in the description, and I’m guessing that most (all?) of them include them after clicking through. You have personal knowledge of many web3 use cases that don’t involve crypto. Do you have a single example?
    - blondin 4y ago
      > Can you give one (1) example of a web3 project (that doesn’t involve crypto) that you use/have contributed to/know anybody that uses? no i won't. that page is enough for you. who are you?