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> And there are more than enough groups directly release their content on public trackers for anything remotely popular (any Netflix series fall into this categ

> And there are more than enough groups directly release their content on public trackers for anything remotely popular (any Netflix series fall into this category) Name one! Or link a torrent. I’m pretty sure you will only find shit quality webrips made with capture cards and not actual decrypted streams. > The piracy scene (with 0-day FTP etc.) worked fine before BT was even well-known. The TV scene has been reduced to nothing because none of the groups could figure out Widevine. Just look at any pre feed. Private tracker groups did though, and now everybody depends on them.

thrdbndndn 4y ago
Dude, you totally overestimated how hard cracking Widevine is. It's not exactly "trivial", but extracting L1 key from an Android phone running older Android OS version isn't rocket science either.
- lfodofod 4y ago
  Dude, I know exactly how not hard it is because I have done so. The fact remains, zero scene groups figured this out.
  - mccorrinall 4y ago
    They have, but it’s just not interesting. Similar to how the p2p scene doesn’t give a damn about software DRM. Regarding WV: There is actually lots of open source software and even some discords where WV keys are being shared. FFMPEG is capable of decrypting it, so all you need as ffmpeg inputs is the netflix stream and a key and then dump it to disk. Regarding pita DRM: the scene is the only capable group who still supply clean patches for modern DRM in games and applications. (Like denuvo) Clean in the sense that they don’t just install a hypervisor and hook everything for big performance penalties, but actually patch the binary to remove the checks through static analysis. 3DM is the last p2p group I know which done that, but that was half a decade ago. I don’t think there are currently any p2p groups which take a look at this, because it’s just not interesting (effort vs reward) for them.
    - lfodofod 4y ago
      Software pirate groups you are talking about have very little overlap with people who were doing TV releases. > They have, but it’s just not interesting. Similar to how the p2p scene doesn’t give a damn about software DRM. But doing HDTV caps was interesting?
- gforce_de 4y ago
  it is 'Widevine'
hhh 4y ago
EPSiLON, SiQ
- lfodofod 4y ago
  It’s pretty late, so I might be missing something. However, neither of those groups seems to be releasing netflix content? The first does bluray remuxes on HDB (a private tracker). I don’t think they directly release anything on public trackers. The other did a bunch of 360p porn uploads in 2019.
  - 312c 4y ago
    They might mean SiGMA not SiG, SiGMA releases on PrivateHD. EPSiLON used to also, but there was some issues between them and PHD and they are currently releasing on TorrentLeech I believe. SiGMA does Amazon/Netflix WebDLs, but EPSiLON only does BD remuxes.

thrdbndndn 4y ago

Dude, you totally overestimated how hard cracking Widevine is. It's not exactly "trivial", but extracting L1 key from an Android phone running older Android OS version isn't rocket science either.

lfodofod 4y ago
Dude, I know exactly how not hard it is because I have done so. The fact remains, zero scene groups figured this out.
- mccorrinall 4y ago
  They have, but it’s just not interesting. Similar to how the p2p scene doesn’t give a damn about software DRM. Regarding WV: There is actually lots of open source software and even some discords where WV keys are being shared. FFMPEG is capable of decrypting it, so all you need as ffmpeg inputs is the netflix stream and a key and then dump it to disk. Regarding pita DRM: the scene is the only capable group who still supply clean patches for modern DRM in games and applications. (Like denuvo) Clean in the sense that they don’t just install a hypervisor and hook everything for big performance penalties, but actually patch the binary to remove the checks through static analysis. 3DM is the last p2p group I know which done that, but that was half a decade ago. I don’t think there are currently any p2p groups which take a look at this, because it’s just not interesting (effort vs reward) for them.
  - lfodofod 4y ago
    Software pirate groups you are talking about have very little overlap with people who were doing TV releases. > They have, but it’s just not interesting. Similar to how the p2p scene doesn’t give a damn about software DRM. But doing HDTV caps was interesting?
gforce_de 4y ago
it is 'Widevine'

hhh 4y ago

EPSiLON, SiQ

lfodofod 4y ago
It’s pretty late, so I might be missing something. However, neither of those groups seems to be releasing netflix content? The first does bluray remuxes on HDB (a private tracker). I don’t think they directly release anything on public trackers. The other did a bunch of 360p porn uploads in 2019.
- 312c 4y ago
  They might mean SiGMA not SiG, SiGMA releases on PrivateHD. EPSiLON used to also, but there was some issues between them and PHD and they are currently releasing on TorrentLeech I believe. SiGMA does Amazon/Netflix WebDLs, but EPSiLON only does BD remuxes.