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> That is a very naive view of how elections work, wouldn't you say? Pardon me, but I'm going to make a mild appeal to authority for a moment. I have run for o
by dbingham 4y ago
> That is a very naive view of how elections work, wouldn't you say?
Pardon me, but I'm going to make a mild appeal to authority for a moment. I have run for office, served on a mayoral transition committee, worked closely with elected officials on a range of policy issues (many of which got implemented), and my family are professors in public administration at the top public affairs school in the US (specializing in mediation, dispute resolution, and collaborative democracy). So... uh... I feel pretty confident I know what I'm talking about when I say, that's not naive... that's exactly how elections work.
> You missed some.
Fair enough, B-corp, and Co-op are formal structures in other states. The ones I listed are the ones available in my state, but the point stands. I wasn't counting non-profit, since it's somewhat of a different thing.
> And really you can structure a business however you want as long as taxes get paid.
The LLC is an enormously flexible structure, but there are still limits. Either way, the point stands. There's no reason we couldn't change those limits.
> Salary workers everywhere are laughing.
Agreed, and that's a failure of our labor laws. But again, the point stands. There are structures, laws, and limits. The fact that capitalist businesses are constantly trying to find ways around them isn't an argue in favor of capitalism.
> Forcing everyone at the point of a gun to give up any interests in starting a private enterprise putting their own talents to work - sounds like freedom to you? That explains a lot.
It's not forcing them to give up any interest in starting a private enterprise. They're still perfectly free to start a private enterprise. The difference is that once they hire someone, they have to give that person an equal voice in the enterprise. And yes, that increases freedom.
If you don't want to live in an authoritarian society, you have to give up the freedom to become a dictator. The dictator loses a freedom, but everyone else gains a lot more.
- yucky 4y ago> So... uh... I feel pretty confident I know what I'm talking about when I say, that's not naive... that's exactly how elections work. That's adorable, but it's simple naive to think the guy on the McDonalds counter has as much input in elections as the PhD in public policy. Which is for the best because why in the fuck would we want a system where anybody no matter how stupid, gets equal say in how society runs? We put limits on "democracy" for a reason. > The difference is that once they hire someone, they have to give that person an equal voice in the enterprise. And yes, that increases freedom. Again, why in the fuck should the guy running the counter at McDonalds get an equal voice when he doesn't have equal knowledge or ability? Oh wait, are you one of those people who pretends everybody is equally capable?
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