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Ex-russians, who (or whose parents) left Russia, seem to have some kind of romantic connection to the country, they have never been to (or been there when they

by nuccy 4y ago

Ex-russians, who (or whose parents) left Russia, seem to have some kind of romantic connection to the country, they have never been to (or been there when they were young, thus "sun was shinning brighter, grass was greener, trees were taller, and the ice-cream was tastier"). They read old russian classic literature, watch soviet movies, and imagine the better Russia it really is not. Lex in his interviews many times speaks about Putin as of a leader who loves his country and thinks about his people, which has barely any connection to reality, unless Russian TV and other country's media, cleaned up of any dissidents, are been consumed.

fathyb 4y ago
> Ex-russians, who (or whose parents) left Russia, seem to have some kind of romantic connection to the country, they have never been to (or been there when they were young, thus "sun was shinning brighter, grass was greener, trees were taller, and the ice-cream was tastier"). They read old russian classic literature, watch soviet movies, and imagine the better Russia it really is not. Is is bad though? Not forgetting your roots is a good thing. Nothing wrong with being proud of your heritage.
- nuccy 4y ago
  > Is is bad though? Not forgetting your roots is a good thing. It is absolutely good thing. Culture, language, roots are definitely worth cherishing. Though you should not build an illusive and false picture of the country it is today. > People are allowed to be proud of their heritage. Sure, but better not to follow propaganda, which uses that heritage to build a basis for war while manipulating history.
  - fathyb 4y ago
    > Though you should not build an illusive and false picture of the country it is today. I'd argue everybody does that, it's exceptionalism. It's a natural response to being in a group. A tribalistic behaviour you can observe with countries, but also political parties and even k-pop groups. FWIW exceptionalism is mostly associated with one country in particular, but it's not Russia. > Sure, but better not to follow propaganda, which uses that heritage to build a basis for war while manipulating history. I wholeheartedly agree, but you should not underestimate how difficult access to non-propaganda is for everyone in the world. When you believe in propaganda, everything else looks like propaganda.
bryan0 4y ago
Which interviews are you talking about? He repeatedly talks about the horrors of the Soviet Union. Did you see his interview with Fiona Hill? Didn’t seem pro-Putin to me at all. Of course he sees Putin, just like everyone else, as a human being and not a monster.

by nuccy 4y ago

fathyb 4y ago

> Ex-russians, who (or whose parents) left Russia, seem to have some kind of romantic connection to the country, they have never been to (or been there when they were young, thus "sun was shinning brighter, grass was greener, trees were taller, and the ice-cream was tastier"). They read old russian classic literature, watch soviet movies, and imagine the better Russia it really is not. Is is bad though? Not forgetting your roots is a good thing. Nothing wrong with being proud of your heritage.

nuccy 4y ago
> Is is bad though? Not forgetting your roots is a good thing. It is absolutely good thing. Culture, language, roots are definitely worth cherishing. Though you should not build an illusive and false picture of the country it is today. > People are allowed to be proud of their heritage. Sure, but better not to follow propaganda, which uses that heritage to build a basis for war while manipulating history.
- fathyb 4y ago
  > Though you should not build an illusive and false picture of the country it is today. I'd argue everybody does that, it's exceptionalism. It's a natural response to being in a group. A tribalistic behaviour you can observe with countries, but also political parties and even k-pop groups. FWIW exceptionalism is mostly associated with one country in particular, but it's not Russia. > Sure, but better not to follow propaganda, which uses that heritage to build a basis for war while manipulating history. I wholeheartedly agree, but you should not underestimate how difficult access to non-propaganda is for everyone in the world. When you believe in propaganda, everything else looks like propaganda.

bryan0 4y ago

Which interviews are you talking about? He repeatedly talks about the horrors of the Soviet Union. Did you see his interview with Fiona Hill? Didn’t seem pro-Putin to me at all. Of course he sees Putin, just like everyone else, as a human being and not a monster.