I'm not sure on the cheating ring or other cases, but for the one I witnessed it was blatantly sharing each others exams + answers during the busy "turn in your

I'm not sure on the cheating ring or other cases, but for the one I witnessed it was blatantly sharing each others exams + answers during the busy "turn in your exams" moment of a crowded auditorium. One East Asian student I talked to said it was a cultural difference, cheating in academics just wasn't considered that big a deal and very common in competitive districts (international students from China or India for instance, or competition at top high schools like Thomas Jefferson). Basically "everyone does it and if you don't you'll be left behind". It was a top 20 school but not ivy. Have always heard "public ivy" and it competes for "top public university", near or topping the list most years.