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I've been all-in on usb-c for a long time, and have made a hobby of updating old devices to usb-c instead of microusb and in some cases adding li-ion cells. My
by johnwalkr 4y ago
I've been all-in on usb-c for a long time, and have made a hobby of updating old devices to usb-c instead of microusb and in some cases adding li-ion cells. My favorite things so far is updating all of my retro consoles to usb-c power input and adding usb-c charging and a li-ion cell to my favorite keyboard, the 4th gen Apple wireless keyboard[1]. It has a bit more travel than the non-butterfly macbook keyboards. At one point I bought all US layout versions I could find in my country. I have about 10, some new in the box, which should be a lifetime supply.
Unfortunately, like another poster said, many usb-c devices are not compliant and only charge with an "a-c" cable. This is because usb-a defaults to 5V power, but usb-c defaults to no power output without negotiation or CC resistors. If you are in a pinch, a usb c-a adapter plus a usb a-c cable does work. In my experience these use the cheapest possible usb-c connectors that don't expose the CC pins, so to fix them, you need to remove the connector and install a new one. See [3] for power only and [4] for power+data.
Anyway, I always like to share 3 cheap products for anyone interested in upgrading devices to usb-c charging or connectivity. Since these are available from many aliexpress sellers but the actual listings come and go I will share search terms which hopefully work 1+ years from now.
- usb-c charging PCB for a lithium ion cell[2]
- usb-c connector with integrated 5.1kohm resistors, to easily use usb-c for 5V power without data.[3]
- usb-c connector with just enough pins for adding CC resistors and connecting to power and usb 2 data lines in an existing product, but without all the additional pins for usb3 and thunderbolt (because this makes it very difficult for a hobbyist to solder it in place without bridging pins). Unfortunately I don't know of a product with CC resistors + power pins + data pins so you do have to add CC resistors yourself.[4]
- small PCB with a chip to negotiate more than 5V (9V, 12V, 15V, 20V). Some of these offer fixed voltage and some are configurable.[5]
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Wireless_Keyboard#/media/File:Apple-wireless-keyboard-aluminum-2007-side-view.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Wireless_Keyboard#/media...
[2] "Ultra-mini Type-C USB Charger Module DC 5V 1A Charging Board"
[3] "USB 3.1 Waterproof Type-C Connector 16PIN 5A Female Socket Double 5.1K Resistor Support Charging And Discharging"
[4] "Micro USB-3.1 SMD 16P type-c Female Connector Socket"
[5] "usb-c decoy module"
- thatcherc 4y agoThat is a great link list! I've been curious about converting over a few micro-USB devices I have around so I might pick up some of these boards. Do you have any recommendations for search terms for boards that would take in DC power (12V+) and make that available for output over a USB-C connection?
- Eisenstein 4y agoUSB-C trigger 12V is what you look for.
- yummypaint 4y agosmall PCB with a chip to negotiate more than 5V (9V, 12V, 15V, 20V) The 20V versions of these make excelent replacements for broken rectangular thinkpad power connectors, as they fit within the footprint. Add a magnetic Usb-c adapter and it's much better than the factory options. Sugru works well for mounting it.
- dotancohen 4y agoI absolutely love Sugru, I'm happy to see it mentioned on HN.
- rainbowzootsuit 4y agohttps://youtu.be/aIHj3qMRqqE https://youtu.be/aIHj3qMRqqE I found this video just today about USB PD "trigger boards" or "decoy modules" in the ali express/ebay/amazon searches. There seem to be some you can short a resistor on for a locked setting, or others like in the video that have a mode select.
- joshka 4y agoSomething I'd love to find is a multi-port (say 10+) PD power supply. My use case is synths and pedals that randomly take 5/9/12 and a smattering of other voltages, replacing a bunch of DC adapters with USB-C cables and a decoy module would be ideal (or one of the options above where the device already has USB Micro ports).