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It’s not micro LED - it’s mini LED. Mini LED uses an array of white LEDs to provide somewhat-localized dimming / illumination. You can get close to true blacks

It’s not micro LED - it’s mini LED. Mini LED uses an array of white LEDs to provide somewhat-localized dimming / illumination. You can get close to true blacks with this, but you might notice a halo around areas since the mini LED array resolution is lower than that of the RGB pixels.

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ansgri 4y ago
I'm not sure halo is an issue with modern miniLEDs. I've actually worked with research-grade local dimming algorithms and it's relatively easy to get a perceptually nearly perfect picture if you have a calibrated backlight and some image processing software. These algorithms have been known known for a while but it looks like only recently got to production due to need for efficient realtime implementation (they need to run at full 60 or 120 Hz after all). And, maybe more important, let's not forget the glare effect in our eyes [0] that tends to mask smaller halos. A couple papers for example, [1] describes one of the better classical algorithms, and [2] is about a modern NN-based approach. [0] https://resources.mpi-inf.mpg.de/hdr/TemporalGlare/ https://resources.mpi-inf.mpg.de/hdr/TemporalGlare/ [1] (2015, pdf) https://hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/hal-01362368/file/IVMSP2016_Rendering.pdf https://hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/hal-01362368/file/IVMSP2016... [2] (2020) https://arxiv.org/abs/2008.08352v1 https://arxiv.org/abs/2008.08352v1
- akvadrako 4y ago
  I apologize for not reading those papers first, but I don't see how this is possible. With miniLEDs you have a small area of the screen which has a single backlight - if half of that area is 100% white and half 100% black, you'll need the backlight 100% on. How can that black be as black as in the neighboring area where the backlight is off?
  - ericlewis 4y ago
    I read the papers - it can't, they just seem to have novel ways of controlling the zones available. I supposed the smaller the miniLED array the more control you can have over the zones and the better it works. But there doesn't seem to be anything that really solves the bleeding issue.
  - opwieurposiu 4y ago
    The human eye perceives colors relative to their surroundings, so a black pixel next to a white pixel will look blacker. You can exploit this effect to enhance the perceived contrast ratio. How well this works in practice varies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checker_shadow_illusion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checker_shadow_illusion
    - ansgri 4y ago
      This, and in general setting LED brightness to minimum necessary to get target brightness with fully open LCD, taking into account interaction of nearby LEDs (light from one LED spreads to adjacent cells, thus you could minimize brightness of boundary LEDs even farther).

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ansgri 4y ago

I'm not sure halo is an issue with modern miniLEDs. I've actually worked with research-grade local dimming algorithms and it's relatively easy to get a perceptually nearly perfect picture if you have a calibrated backlight and some image processing software. These algorithms have been known known for a while but it looks like only recently got to production due to need for efficient realtime implementation (they need to run at full 60 or 120 Hz after all). And, maybe more important, let's not forget the glare effect in our eyes [0] that tends to mask smaller halos. A couple papers for example, [1] describes one of the better classical algorithms, and [2] is about a modern NN-based approach. [0] https://resources.mpi-inf.mpg.de/hdr/TemporalGlare/ https://resources.mpi-inf.mpg.de/hdr/TemporalGlare/ [1] (2015, pdf) https://hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/hal-01362368/file/IVMSP2016_Rendering.pdf https://hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/hal-01362368/file/IVMSP2016... [2] (2020) https://arxiv.org/abs/2008.08352v1 https://arxiv.org/abs/2008.08352v1

akvadrako 4y ago
I apologize for not reading those papers first, but I don't see how this is possible. With miniLEDs you have a small area of the screen which has a single backlight - if half of that area is 100% white and half 100% black, you'll need the backlight 100% on. How can that black be as black as in the neighboring area where the backlight is off?
- ericlewis 4y ago
  I read the papers - it can't, they just seem to have novel ways of controlling the zones available. I supposed the smaller the miniLED array the more control you can have over the zones and the better it works. But there doesn't seem to be anything that really solves the bleeding issue.
- opwieurposiu 4y ago
  The human eye perceives colors relative to their surroundings, so a black pixel next to a white pixel will look blacker. You can exploit this effect to enhance the perceived contrast ratio. How well this works in practice varies. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checker_shadow_illusion https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Checker_shadow_illusion
  - ansgri 4y ago
    This, and in general setting LED brightness to minimum necessary to get target brightness with fully open LCD, taking into account interaction of nearby LEDs (light from one LED spreads to adjacent cells, thus you could minimize brightness of boundary LEDs even farther).