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> AI models scale better than wetware models for large, dynamic systems — particularly for complexity above what one person can handle. Totally, but I would ar

> AI models scale better than wetware models for large, dynamic systems — particularly for complexity above what one person can handle. Totally, but I would argue that benefit is due to a lack of consciousness/self-awareness bottlenecking the process. It's a savant. The best consciousness could do to help is aim such machines at better optimization criteria more effectively than us.

zmgsabst 4y ago
> Totally, but I would argue that benefit is due to a lack of consciousness/self-awareness bottlenecking the process. I don’t think that’s true: for a given tick rate of your consciousness, AI will have a broader comprehension than a human because computers are better at synchronizing and distributing information. Further, that’s the wrong way to think about it: An AI that can only have one thought per minute would dominate any human executive team — because that once per minute thought would truly comprehend the situation of the company and take action that’s consistent with its intent across the company. That ability to accumulate information and then coordinate response is what makes the computers better than humans as corporate executives — and that doesn’t go away just because it becomes self-aware.
- blamestross 4y ago
  > and that doesn’t go away just because it becomes self-aware. So funny that, biology offers correlation to the contrary. Animals we think are "less conscious" tend to actually have many better cognitive abilities than us. Chimps have faster reaction times and better memory. Octopi have much better spatial and visual reasoning. Consciousness makes us dumber in exchange for more adaptability. If it was a free lunch, biology would be handing it out like candy.
  - zmgsabst 4y ago
    That’s not true, you’re injecting your own biases. Eg, crows have better eyesight and higher intelligence than many monkeys. There’s a reason related to brain synchronization that you typically operate slower — that part is true. But AI already synchronize data and calculate with cascades; so that won’t change. Further, you didn’t actually answer my point: even if AI clocks down significantly in that process, the increase in bandwidth is a trade off that benefits businesses over the other species. For the same reason that humans are the dominant hunters.

zmgsabst 4y ago

> Totally, but I would argue that benefit is due to a lack of consciousness/self-awareness bottlenecking the process. I don’t think that’s true: for a given tick rate of your consciousness, AI will have a broader comprehension than a human because computers are better at synchronizing and distributing information. Further, that’s the wrong way to think about it: An AI that can only have one thought per minute would dominate any human executive team — because that once per minute thought would truly comprehend the situation of the company and take action that’s consistent with its intent across the company. That ability to accumulate information and then coordinate response is what makes the computers better than humans as corporate executives — and that doesn’t go away just because it becomes self-aware.

blamestross 4y ago
> and that doesn’t go away just because it becomes self-aware. So funny that, biology offers correlation to the contrary. Animals we think are "less conscious" tend to actually have many better cognitive abilities than us. Chimps have faster reaction times and better memory. Octopi have much better spatial and visual reasoning. Consciousness makes us dumber in exchange for more adaptability. If it was a free lunch, biology would be handing it out like candy.
- zmgsabst 4y ago
  That’s not true, you’re injecting your own biases. Eg, crows have better eyesight and higher intelligence than many monkeys. There’s a reason related to brain synchronization that you typically operate slower — that part is true. But AI already synchronize data and calculate with cascades; so that won’t change. Further, you didn’t actually answer my point: even if AI clocks down significantly in that process, the increase in bandwidth is a trade off that benefits businesses over the other species. For the same reason that humans are the dominant hunters.