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Google isn't the internet and if it fails , it's google's problem not ours( or internet's ?). There is other alternatives to google's services, if one finds the

by devmach 15y ago

Google isn't the internet and if it fails , it's google's problem not ours( or internet's ?). There is other alternatives to google's services, if one finds the others better than google, he is free to use them. Seriously, just don't use it if you hate it, that's the best response that you can give. I don't use G+ because of the "Real Name Policy". It's my choice to give my real name or not and Google don't respect my choices. I have FB, e-mail (yay!), blog, skype etc... I have everything to communicate with my friends or with the world ! I don't need some Nazi to give me an advice like "If You Have Something You Don't Want Anyone To Know, Maybe You Shouldn't Be Doing It"....

j_col 15y ago
I'm sorry, but for a large amount of people who only use Google for search, Google is the Internet. That's why I switched to DuckDuckGo a long time ago, but people like me are a tiny minority. Now speaking as a web publishing, if people started to copy-and-paste my articles into Google+ and these entries got higher rankings on Google search than my original content, I'd be pretty upset too. It isn't a question of what search engine I use in this instance, but what the majority of everyone else is using.
- devmach 15y ago
  Google can be a giant now but it isn't mean that it's invincible. Google isn't innovative since "Gmail", keeps making mistakes (buzz etc) and make people angry. Nowadays people aren't royal to the products and even "normal" users can change their habits (remember icq -> msn transformation)
  - danso 15y ago
    Can you elaborate on...well, everything, in your post? What do you mean "keeps making mistakes." That Google, like everyone else, makes mistakes, and will continue to do so until the end of the world? Or that it is making a higher-than-expected number of mistakes?
    - devmach 15y ago
      Some mistakes that i remember : * Buzz * Code Search * University resarch program for google search. * Jaiku * Dodgeball That services either acquired or created by Google. They were valuable but now closed . For example : Buzz has fascinating technology behing it, but still failed. Google didn't understand users ( there was not so much people because of the invitation thing and mass was important ), user wasn't able to understand "What the heck is the Google Buzz" ( communication error by google ? ). As for G+, Eric Schmidt's response wasn't the nicest response to give the users who complains about real name policy. And again "elite g+ club" enthusiasm was a mistake, like buzz, because a social network means nothing without your friends ( this time they realised their mistake and act before it's too late ).
    - DanBC 15y ago
      DejaNews - I was excited by Google buying this. All those news posts, with a good search engine in front. What could go wrong? And then clueful users didn't want their words used for ads, so they started x-no-archiving their posts. And then eternal September really took off with vast numbers of people using Google Groups. Usenet was dying a slow horrible death and there are lots of reasons for that (Dutch dumpers; stealth binaries; rushed "standards" like Yenc; etc) but Google didn't help (and probably made things a lot worse) when they borked DejaNews.
danmaz74 15y ago
Isn't there a real name policy on FB too?
- devmach 15y ago
  Fb has also but the difference is : * nobody told me "what is right" * nobody forced me to give my real name. * nobody kicked me or my friends out becauseof the some funny name or profile picture.
  - Karunamon 15y ago
    Ask one of your friends to flag your profile for having a non-you picture or a fake name. I will all but guarantee you get a g+-esque nastygram within 48 hours. I think Facebook relies entirely on user flagging. Just because you haven't been caught breaking the ToS doesn't mean you're not breaking it.
    - lmm 15y ago
      A nastygram at least tells you what's happening, and I believe Facebook has an appeals process. G+ will just silently remove it, at least in the profile picture case.

by devmach 15y ago

j_col 15y ago

I'm sorry, but for a large amount of people who only use Google for search, Google is the Internet. That's why I switched to DuckDuckGo a long time ago, but people like me are a tiny minority. Now speaking as a web publishing, if people started to copy-and-paste my articles into Google+ and these entries got higher rankings on Google search than my original content, I'd be pretty upset too. It isn't a question of what search engine I use in this instance, but what the majority of everyone else is using.

devmach 15y ago
Google can be a giant now but it isn't mean that it's invincible. Google isn't innovative since "Gmail", keeps making mistakes (buzz etc) and make people angry. Nowadays people aren't royal to the products and even "normal" users can change their habits (remember icq -> msn transformation)
- danso 15y ago
  Can you elaborate on...well, everything, in your post? What do you mean "keeps making mistakes." That Google, like everyone else, makes mistakes, and will continue to do so until the end of the world? Or that it is making a higher-than-expected number of mistakes?
  - devmach 15y ago
    Some mistakes that i remember : * Buzz * Code Search * University resarch program for google search. * Jaiku * Dodgeball That services either acquired or created by Google. They were valuable but now closed . For example : Buzz has fascinating technology behing it, but still failed. Google didn't understand users ( there was not so much people because of the invitation thing and mass was important ), user wasn't able to understand "What the heck is the Google Buzz" ( communication error by google ? ). As for G+, Eric Schmidt's response wasn't the nicest response to give the users who complains about real name policy. And again "elite g+ club" enthusiasm was a mistake, like buzz, because a social network means nothing without your friends ( this time they realised their mistake and act before it's too late ).
  - DanBC 15y ago
    DejaNews - I was excited by Google buying this. All those news posts, with a good search engine in front. What could go wrong? And then clueful users didn't want their words used for ads, so they started x-no-archiving their posts. And then eternal September really took off with vast numbers of people using Google Groups. Usenet was dying a slow horrible death and there are lots of reasons for that (Dutch dumpers; stealth binaries; rushed "standards" like Yenc; etc) but Google didn't help (and probably made things a lot worse) when they borked DejaNews.

danmaz74 15y ago

Isn't there a real name policy on FB too?

devmach 15y ago
Fb has also but the difference is : * nobody told me "what is right" * nobody forced me to give my real name. * nobody kicked me or my friends out becauseof the some funny name or profile picture.
- Karunamon 15y ago
  Ask one of your friends to flag your profile for having a non-you picture or a fake name. I will all but guarantee you get a g+-esque nastygram within 48 hours. I think Facebook relies entirely on user flagging. Just because you haven't been caught breaking the ToS doesn't mean you're not breaking it.
  - lmm 15y ago
    A nastygram at least tells you what's happening, and I believe Facebook has an appeals process. G+ will just silently remove it, at least in the profile picture case.