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The title is a bit misleading. > Meta is now prohibited to bypass the GDPR via a clause in the terms and conditions. Meta has to get "opt-in" consent for perso

The title is a bit misleading. > Meta is now prohibited to bypass the GDPR via a clause in the terms and conditions. Meta has to get "opt-in" consent for personalized advertisement and must provide users with a "yes/no" option

dylan604 4y ago
It's one thing to provide on opt-in for new users, but will this mean retroactively resetting ALL users to no?
- tpxl 4y ago
  Reset all preferences to 'no' for affected users, and ask them on the next login whether they would like this or not. Simple.
  - dylan604 4y ago
    Simple for you and I, but not so simple if you're a lawyer working for Meta that can twist words and interpretations of those words strung together into sentences in a legal contract. At the end of the day, you and I don't matter in our interpretations. It is the lawyers and judges. Who do you trust?
    - Nextgrid 4y ago
      GDPR actually mandates consent to be informed, so a simple, user-friendly explanation is more likely to win over 100 pages of legalese.
- M2Ys4U 4y ago
  >will this mean retroactively resetting ALL users to no? Yes, because Meta does not have explicit, informed consent from existing users.
  - dylan604 4y ago
    As if that has EVER stopped them before
    - M2Ys4U 4y ago
      The difference is that now they're getting fined and being given legally-binding orders to stop.
      - dylan604 4y ago
        It's not like they haven't been fined before, and continued doing shady shit. I'm sorry, but I have such a low opinion of Meta/Facebook/theZuck that none of this means anything positive to me. I am a much more pessimistic person regarding these kinds of things that I give no credence of benefit of doubt. I also don't trust these legally-binding orders as they are only legally binding until some sharp tongue lawyer figures a way to weasel out from under them. I'm happy for you that you are much more optimistic about these things, and I hope for all our sake you are not disappointed. From point of view, I can only be pleasantly surprised. To disappoint me at this point would be an ultimate new low.
        LelouBil 4y ago
        From https://gdpr.eu/fines/ https://gdpr.eu/fines/ > The less severe infringements could result in a fine of up to €10 million, or 2% of the firm’s worldwide annual revenue from the preceding financial year, whichever amount is higher.
        dylan604 4y ago
        could result NOT must result
        layer8 4y ago
        If the EU maxes out on the fines and companies like Meta still don’t comply, I’m sure that legislation will be adjusted to further increase the pressure. It’ll just take time.

dylan604 4y ago

It's one thing to provide on opt-in for new users, but will this mean retroactively resetting ALL users to no?

tpxl 4y ago
Reset all preferences to 'no' for affected users, and ask them on the next login whether they would like this or not. Simple.
- dylan604 4y ago
  Simple for you and I, but not so simple if you're a lawyer working for Meta that can twist words and interpretations of those words strung together into sentences in a legal contract. At the end of the day, you and I don't matter in our interpretations. It is the lawyers and judges. Who do you trust?
  - Nextgrid 4y ago
    GDPR actually mandates consent to be informed, so a simple, user-friendly explanation is more likely to win over 100 pages of legalese.
M2Ys4U 4y ago
>will this mean retroactively resetting ALL users to no? Yes, because Meta does not have explicit, informed consent from existing users.
- dylan604 4y ago
  As if that has EVER stopped them before
  - M2Ys4U 4y ago
    The difference is that now they're getting fined and being given legally-binding orders to stop.
    - dylan604 4y ago
      It's not like they haven't been fined before, and continued doing shady shit. I'm sorry, but I have such a low opinion of Meta/Facebook/theZuck that none of this means anything positive to me. I am a much more pessimistic person regarding these kinds of things that I give no credence of benefit of doubt. I also don't trust these legally-binding orders as they are only legally binding until some sharp tongue lawyer figures a way to weasel out from under them. I'm happy for you that you are much more optimistic about these things, and I hope for all our sake you are not disappointed. From point of view, I can only be pleasantly surprised. To disappoint me at this point would be an ultimate new low.
      - LelouBil 4y ago
        From https://gdpr.eu/fines/ https://gdpr.eu/fines/ > The less severe infringements could result in a fine of up to €10 million, or 2% of the firm’s worldwide annual revenue from the preceding financial year, whichever amount is higher.
        dylan604 4y ago
        could result NOT must result
        layer8 4y ago
        If the EU maxes out on the fines and companies like Meta still don’t comply, I’m sure that legislation will be adjusted to further increase the pressure. It’ll just take time.