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Because the books he labeled racist came from a list like the ADL. (I might be wrong on the org). In recent times these types of popular lists have been used to

Because the books he labeled racist came from a list like the ADL. (I might be wrong on the org). In recent times these types of popular lists have been used to call all sorts of things racist which were not so. Like the book, to kill a mockingbird for example being recently banned in many school districts.

QuarterReptile 4y ago
If you're talking about the author, she cited SPLC. I'm not familiar with ADL, but I'd be surprised if they're more ill-suited for assembling blacklists of racist reading material than SPLC.
- mardifoufs 4y ago
  The ADL was originally founded to protect a rapist that tried to get a black man that worked for him accused for the rape he committed in Atlanta but failed. It also advocates for an ethnostate in israel. That completely destroys any credibility it has.
  - czx4f4bd 4y ago
    The original article cited the SPLC, not the ADL, so this has literally nothing to do with the topic at hand except that the GP commenter's mind for some reason jumped to the ADL while trying to defend books about murdering Jews and other minorities.
    - imwillofficial 4y ago
      Hardly defending, I’m just no fan of censorship, including the authors book. What I don’t like is lists of books we accept as bad without reading them ourselves.
czx4f4bd 4y ago
It would have taken you two minutes of investigation to realize that these books are nothing like To Kill a Mockingbird. You could have read the SPLC article that the author linked, which lists numerous books explicitly promoting white supremacy, violence against minorities, and ultimately the extermination of anyone who isn't white. Or you could've just looked up the books' summaries and a few choice quotes to see how overtly racist they are. From Mein Kampf: > The Jews were responsible for bringing Negroes into the Rhineland, with the ultimate idea of bastardizing the white race which they hate and thus lowering its cultural and political level so that the Jew might dominate. For as long as a people remain racially pure and are conscious of the treasure of their blood, they can never be overcome by the Jew. Never in this world can the Jew become master of any people except a bastardized people. From the Turner Diaries, in an extended passage describing the author's extermination fantasy, much of which is too grotesque to even share: > There are many thousands of hanging female corpses like that in this city tonight, all wearing identical placards around their necks. They are the White women who were married to or living with Blacks, with Jews, or with other non-White males. There are also a number of men wearing the I-defiled-my-race placard, but the women easily outnumber them seven or eight to one. On the other hand, about ninety per cent of the corpses with the I-betrayed-my-race placards are men, and overall the sexes seem to be roughly balanced.
tokai 4y ago
Please, Turner Diaries is explicitly racist and written by a card carrying white supremacist. And its is a know fact that the text has incited murders. The Oklahoma bomber had pages from the book on his person when he carried out his attack. It's ridiculous to deny that the book communicates a message of racial hatred and violence, when it's clear in the text, claimed by the author, and celebrated by it's fans. I'm not for banning any books, but if books are banned when they "Advocates/encourages violence, hatred, group disruption, racial animus and not merely describes the same" the Turner Diaries should one of the first to go.
ant6n 4y ago
True. Calling Adolf Hitler a racist is only something woke millennials would do. /sarcasm

QuarterReptile 4y ago

If you're talking about the author, she cited SPLC. I'm not familiar with ADL, but I'd be surprised if they're more ill-suited for assembling blacklists of racist reading material than SPLC.

mardifoufs 4y ago
The ADL was originally founded to protect a rapist that tried to get a black man that worked for him accused for the rape he committed in Atlanta but failed. It also advocates for an ethnostate in israel. That completely destroys any credibility it has.
- czx4f4bd 4y ago
  The original article cited the SPLC, not the ADL, so this has literally nothing to do with the topic at hand except that the GP commenter's mind for some reason jumped to the ADL while trying to defend books about murdering Jews and other minorities.
  - imwillofficial 4y ago
    Hardly defending, I’m just no fan of censorship, including the authors book. What I don’t like is lists of books we accept as bad without reading them ourselves.

czx4f4bd 4y ago

It would have taken you two minutes of investigation to realize that these books are nothing like To Kill a Mockingbird. You could have read the SPLC article that the author linked, which lists numerous books explicitly promoting white supremacy, violence against minorities, and ultimately the extermination of anyone who isn't white. Or you could've just looked up the books' summaries and a few choice quotes to see how overtly racist they are. From Mein Kampf: > The Jews were responsible for bringing Negroes into the Rhineland, with the ultimate idea of bastardizing the white race which they hate and thus lowering its cultural and political level so that the Jew might dominate. For as long as a people remain racially pure and are conscious of the treasure of their blood, they can never be overcome by the Jew. Never in this world can the Jew become master of any people except a bastardized people. From the Turner Diaries, in an extended passage describing the author's extermination fantasy, much of which is too grotesque to even share: > There are many thousands of hanging female corpses like that in this city tonight, all wearing identical placards around their necks. They are the White women who were married to or living with Blacks, with Jews, or with other non-White males. There are also a number of men wearing the I-defiled-my-race placard, but the women easily outnumber them seven or eight to one. On the other hand, about ninety per cent of the corpses with the I-betrayed-my-race placards are men, and overall the sexes seem to be roughly balanced.

tokai 4y ago

Please, Turner Diaries is explicitly racist and written by a card carrying white supremacist. And its is a know fact that the text has incited murders. The Oklahoma bomber had pages from the book on his person when he carried out his attack. It's ridiculous to deny that the book communicates a message of racial hatred and violence, when it's clear in the text, claimed by the author, and celebrated by it's fans. I'm not for banning any books, but if books are banned when they "Advocates/encourages violence, hatred, group disruption, racial animus and not merely describes the same" the Turner Diaries should one of the first to go.

ant6n 4y ago

True. Calling Adolf Hitler a racist is only something woke millennials would do. /sarcasm