What made me pick Django (and Python) over RoR back in 2009 when I was looking for next language after becoming unhappy PHP was experience with part of its comm

What made me pick Django (and Python) over RoR back in 2009 when I was looking for next language after becoming unhappy PHP was experience with part of its community. But it wasn't positive experience with Djangonauts. It was negative experience with RoR devs. I've never had random Django person come from nowhere either on web dev forum or PHP forum to *flame* others for using PHP. But it was regular thing with Rails devs. AFAIR the term "Rails Zealot", meaning combative tribalistic RoR developer who goes around the web to try to convince other devs that they should switch to RoR using aggressive and flaming rhetoric comes from around that time. I've though this was regular PHP hate, but when I've started learning Django and participating on Python communities I've found out that at smaller scale the flamewars are also there. But this time the reasons why I am "harming myself" and "not real programing" were different.