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??? Python was huge in the 90's? News to me. No one I knew knew about it until like 2010.

by Mikeb85 4y ago

programmer_dude 4y ago
LOL, you and your friends have been living under a rock. I have been using Python since (at most) 2002.
- Mikeb85 4y ago
  > I have been using Python since (at most) 2002. So 4 years after Google. Which made my point to the parent. And apparently everyone's been living under a rock because Python didn't become truly huge until maybe 10 years ago.
  - programmer_dude 4y ago
    I did not start using python because it was adopted by Google. It was / is useful with or without Google.
    - Mikeb85 4y ago
      You may not have, but let's not pretend it didn't become mainstream in the 2005-2020 time period... When people decided what language to use, it was very much a "X uses this, maybe we should" kind of decision. Still is for the most part.
KptMarchewa 4y ago
I've been learning Python in university ("webdev" class) in 2008 already...
mgkimsal 4y ago
Can I assume the '85' in your username indicates a birth year? Zope was a Python project from the late 90s, and had quite a bit of attention and traction in the early cms/publishing days. That brought Python attention, and certainly gave it some mindshare in the late 90s.
- ilyt 4y ago
  I remember it existing back then and near-nobody caring
- ofrzeta 4y ago
  Zope is still alive, it seems, although I haven't touched it in 20 years: https://zope.readthedocs.io/en/latest/news.html#what-s-new-in-zope-5 https://zope.readthedocs.io/en/latest/news.html#what-s-new-i...
- michaelteter 4y ago
  I don't think Zope/Plone had hardly anything to do with Python's rise. While a number of significant sites were built on Zope or Plone, the relative ease with setting up such a site meant that little or no code-level modification or extension was necessary.
Ancapistani 4y ago
My first real professional programming project was written in Python, using Django 0.96, in 2007. It was at a large shipping company, and "under the radar" - i.e., the "business side" did it, as IT wouldn't support it. Two years later the project had become an integral part of some critical business processes, and IT had to take it on. They decided to rewrite it in C#. I left the company at that point, and almost a decade later I got a call from a former coworker asking for help to fix the system. It turns out it was basically unchanged from when I left, and the address of the Exchange server that it relied on for auth had changed.

??? Python was huge in the 90's? News to me. No one I knew knew about it until like 2010.

programmer_dude 4y ago

LOL, you and your friends have been living under a rock. I have been using Python since (at most) 2002.

Mikeb85 4y ago
> I have been using Python since (at most) 2002. So 4 years after Google. Which made my point to the parent. And apparently everyone's been living under a rock because Python didn't become truly huge until maybe 10 years ago.
- programmer_dude 4y ago
  I did not start using python because it was adopted by Google. It was / is useful with or without Google.
  - Mikeb85 4y ago
    You may not have, but let's not pretend it didn't become mainstream in the 2005-2020 time period... When people decided what language to use, it was very much a "X uses this, maybe we should" kind of decision. Still is for the most part.

KptMarchewa 4y ago

I've been learning Python in university ("webdev" class) in 2008 already...

mgkimsal 4y ago

Can I assume the '85' in your username indicates a birth year? Zope was a Python project from the late 90s, and had quite a bit of attention and traction in the early cms/publishing days. That brought Python attention, and certainly gave it some mindshare in the late 90s.

ilyt 4y ago
I remember it existing back then and near-nobody caring
ofrzeta 4y ago
Zope is still alive, it seems, although I haven't touched it in 20 years: https://zope.readthedocs.io/en/latest/news.html#what-s-new-in-zope-5 https://zope.readthedocs.io/en/latest/news.html#what-s-new-i...
michaelteter 4y ago
I don't think Zope/Plone had hardly anything to do with Python's rise. While a number of significant sites were built on Zope or Plone, the relative ease with setting up such a site meant that little or no code-level modification or extension was necessary.

Ancapistani 4y ago

My first real professional programming project was written in Python, using Django 0.96, in 2007. It was at a large shipping company, and "under the radar" - i.e., the "business side" did it, as IT wouldn't support it. Two years later the project had become an integral part of some critical business processes, and IT had to take it on. They decided to rewrite it in C#. I left the company at that point, and almost a decade later I got a call from a former coworker asking for help to fix the system. It turns out it was basically unchanged from when I left, and the address of the Exchange server that it relied on for auth had changed.