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That is also not a counterargument to not needing immigration, just a reiteration of not wanting immigration. You hand-wave over what actually constitutes "too
by bayesian_horse 4y ago
That is also not a counterargument to not needing immigration, just a reiteration of not wanting immigration.
You hand-wave over what actually constitutes "too much immigration", and any evidence that more immigration leads to more "fascism" or even just hatred against immigrants. Hungary has hardly any immigration but manages to motivate fascism through fear of immigration. On the other hand, more contact with immigrants often leads to less fear of immigrants (has been shown in many studies). The sentiment is stronger for example in Eastern Germany vs Western Germany and guess where there are almost no immigrants.
Limiting immigration to keep nutjobs and evil people happy seems like a dangerous argument.
- midoridensha 4y agoEast Germans' votes count just the same as west Germans'. Same in the US, only worse: votes in Iowa and Idaho count more than votes in California and NY. That's how the US got Trump. You seem to have forgotten about that 4-year period of hell.
- smcl 4y agoThat feels like a problem fairly unique towards the way US elects presidents and senators. In countries where a vote isn’t “worth” less in one area than another you wouldn’t have this. Besides I don’t think “but how will this make the racists feel” is a great way to govern.
- bayesian_horse 4y agoWell, with "Eastern Germany" I mean a particular region which is particularly smaller. And my point was towards racism in general, which is greater where there are fewer immigrants. It's still completely safe to immigrate to cities in Eastern Germany, even for Muslims and black people, even though those would be the most "frowned upon" ethnicities. Still, stopping immigration to stop Trump even seems stupider than the original argument.