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>the strong cultural pressure to do so anyway that used to be there is gone (there's still some pressure, but a far cry from what it used to be). These days, t
by midoridensha 4y ago
>the strong cultural pressure to do so anyway that used to be there is gone (there's still some pressure, but a far cry from what it used to be).
These days, the cultural pressure is to have 1-2 kids, not a whole bunch.
So, with the people who do sign up for this "world's second worst job" only having 1-2 (occasionally 3), and a bunch of others refusing, we end up with birthrates between 1.2 and 1.8, roughly, which isn't enough to sustain the population (this would require a rate of 2.1).
People still want to have kids, but how many people want to repeat all the worst parts of childrearing 3-8 times? Most couples do it once or twice and they've had enough.
>you could implement subsidies to the point where having kids had a net zero impact on your finances,
Honestly, I don't see how this is possible without severely taxing people who don't have any kids, and that's not going to go over well (plus it would screw over all the people who haven't had kids yet, so they're unable to save any money for when they do).
I think the ultimate solution to this is going to look like the novel Brave New World: we're going to have to resort to raising the next generation in institutions.
- bratbag 4y agoYou think people will accept a Brave new world scenario before they would accept slightly higher taxes?
- midoridensha 4y ago"Slightly" higher taxes isn't going to bring up the birthrate substantially.
- nisegami 4y agoYes
- hinkley 4y agoMany people will celebrate a population crash back to 2 billion as long as it’s not via war or pandemic. The problem will be that getting back to 2 billion is likely to raise the average age so high that you actually do have to raise children in bottles because it’s medically dangerous or impossible for the existing population to have offspring. One set of data points to look at might be the relative stress levels of new parents who have given birth to the child versus ones who adopted an infant. The act of childbirth is exhausting, and then you’re sent home with a tiny lizard full of self destruct buttons that you have to take care of. Showing up on day one well rested has got to be a factor.