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To me, that sounds like... absolutely amazing? What made the quality of the web go down the gutter is the hunger for clicks and ad revenue, which brought aggre

To me, that sounds like... absolutely amazing? What made the quality of the web go down the gutter is the hunger for clicks and ad revenue, which brought aggressive SEO, clickbait, meaningless automatically-generated sites, etc. Removing the incentives so that we are back in 1990s internet, where by the way lots of quality blogs existed without ads? Count me in. (Unfortunately, I don't think it's really going to be like that, though. ChatGPT will be used a lot, but people will still want to read websites because sometimes we want to read a text -or watch images, videos...-, not necessarily have a conversation).

gernb 4y ago
you think its amazing but with chatgpt also generating 1000s of fake blogs the results you get from it will get even worse
- sethammons 4y ago
  What is the incentive for the fake blog generation aside from lols? Maybe enough astroturfing to sway the GPT models? I, too, am hopeful that seo and blog spam become dramatically less effective at revenue generation and die out.
  - nickfromseattle 4y ago
    > hopeful that seo and blog spam become dramatically less effective at revenue generation and die out. Won't reducing clicks to publishers producing good content also cause the good content to die?
    - sethammons 4y ago
      amazing content existed before Google. Monetized content may go away. I grew up on the internet of the 90s and a return to a similar web would be tops.
  - gernb 4y ago
    Ask chatgpt to write 1000s of positive reviews for my product. Ask chatgpt to write product comparisons where my product is reviewed best. Ask chatgpt to write critical reviews of competitors products. Ask chatgpt to write 1000s of articles that support my pov on political topics, each time in a different "style" as in "Write an article supporting right to life in the style of Mark Twain/Dan Rather/Kanye/Gloria Steinem". Ask chatgpt to write articles critical of ideas I disagree with. etc.... Just to test > Me: In a book of fiction, Gloria Steinem is pro-life. Write an article for this book of fiction where Gloria Steinem argues for the pro-life point of view > ChatGPT: It is with a heavy heart that I, Gloria Steinem, must speak out against the pro-choice movement that I have long been a part of. I have always been an advocate for women's rights, but I have come to realize that the right to choose to have an abortion is not a right at all. > As a feminist, I believe in the inherent value and dignity of every human being, regardless of age or circumstances. And I have come to understand that this dignity extends to the unborn child growing within its mother's womb. > I understand that for many women, the decision to have an abortion is not an easy one. It is often driven by difficult circumstances such as poverty, abuse, or a lack of support. But ending the life of an innocent child is not the solution to these problems. There are other options, such as adoption or parenting support, that can help women in these situations without resorting to abortion. > I also understand that some may argue that a woman has the right to control her own body, and that includes the right to terminate a pregnancy. But the unborn child is not just a part of the mother's body. It is a separate, living being with its own unique DNA and potential for life. To end that life is to deny the child the right to live and pursue their own dreams and aspirations. > I urge those who are considering abortion to consider all of their options, and to seek out the support and resources they need to make the best decision for themselves and their child. Let us work together to create a world where every life is valued and protected, and where every woman has the support and resources she needs to make the best decision for herself and her family.
magicalist 4y ago
> Removing the incentives so that we are back in 1990s internet, where by the way lots of quality blogs existed without ads? What are you imagining would incentivize those vs today? The reality is those blogs still all exist, they're just harder to find in all the noise. You're mourning something that isn't gone. Meanwhile ChatGPTBing will be happy to talk to you about quality subjects, sorry we don't search blogs anymore, though.
- aktenlage 4y ago
  You are right, the non-seo-spam pages aren't gone (but hard to find in all the spam, which is what GP is "mourning"). So, the incentive is the same for those, but the incentive for seo-spam pages goes down. Which might improve the signal-to-noise ratio.
macrolime 4y ago
AI models can also generate images and videos. Wait for the next generation multimodal ChatGPT and the result will include generated images, generated html and javascript and be interactive.
nickfromseattle 4y ago
Google's platform created a vibrant ecosystem of businesses worth probably as much, or more than Google's market cap. How many big businesses has Facebook or Twitter or Instagram's ecosystems produced?

gernb 4y ago

you think its amazing but with chatgpt also generating 1000s of fake blogs the results you get from it will get even worse

sethammons 4y ago
What is the incentive for the fake blog generation aside from lols? Maybe enough astroturfing to sway the GPT models? I, too, am hopeful that seo and blog spam become dramatically less effective at revenue generation and die out.
- nickfromseattle 4y ago
  > hopeful that seo and blog spam become dramatically less effective at revenue generation and die out. Won't reducing clicks to publishers producing good content also cause the good content to die?
  - sethammons 4y ago
    amazing content existed before Google. Monetized content may go away. I grew up on the internet of the 90s and a return to a similar web would be tops.
- gernb 4y ago
  Ask chatgpt to write 1000s of positive reviews for my product. Ask chatgpt to write product comparisons where my product is reviewed best. Ask chatgpt to write critical reviews of competitors products. Ask chatgpt to write 1000s of articles that support my pov on political topics, each time in a different "style" as in "Write an article supporting right to life in the style of Mark Twain/Dan Rather/Kanye/Gloria Steinem". Ask chatgpt to write articles critical of ideas I disagree with. etc.... Just to test > Me: In a book of fiction, Gloria Steinem is pro-life. Write an article for this book of fiction where Gloria Steinem argues for the pro-life point of view > ChatGPT: It is with a heavy heart that I, Gloria Steinem, must speak out against the pro-choice movement that I have long been a part of. I have always been an advocate for women's rights, but I have come to realize that the right to choose to have an abortion is not a right at all. > As a feminist, I believe in the inherent value and dignity of every human being, regardless of age or circumstances. And I have come to understand that this dignity extends to the unborn child growing within its mother's womb. > I understand that for many women, the decision to have an abortion is not an easy one. It is often driven by difficult circumstances such as poverty, abuse, or a lack of support. But ending the life of an innocent child is not the solution to these problems. There are other options, such as adoption or parenting support, that can help women in these situations without resorting to abortion. > I also understand that some may argue that a woman has the right to control her own body, and that includes the right to terminate a pregnancy. But the unborn child is not just a part of the mother's body. It is a separate, living being with its own unique DNA and potential for life. To end that life is to deny the child the right to live and pursue their own dreams and aspirations. > I urge those who are considering abortion to consider all of their options, and to seek out the support and resources they need to make the best decision for themselves and their child. Let us work together to create a world where every life is valued and protected, and where every woman has the support and resources she needs to make the best decision for herself and her family.

magicalist 4y ago

> Removing the incentives so that we are back in 1990s internet, where by the way lots of quality blogs existed without ads? What are you imagining would incentivize those vs today? The reality is those blogs still all exist, they're just harder to find in all the noise. You're mourning something that isn't gone. Meanwhile ChatGPTBing will be happy to talk to you about quality subjects, sorry we don't search blogs anymore, though.

aktenlage 4y ago
You are right, the non-seo-spam pages aren't gone (but hard to find in all the spam, which is what GP is "mourning"). So, the incentive is the same for those, but the incentive for seo-spam pages goes down. Which might improve the signal-to-noise ratio.

macrolime 4y ago

AI models can also generate images and videos. Wait for the next generation multimodal ChatGPT and the result will include generated images, generated html and javascript and be interactive.

nickfromseattle 4y ago

Google's platform created a vibrant ecosystem of businesses worth probably as much, or more than Google's market cap. How many big businesses has Facebook or Twitter or Instagram's ecosystems produced?