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Author here. Some folks wanted the details on pricing. Pre migration, the Terrateam AWS monthly bill was about $200/mo. With Fly.io, we're paying around $90/mo

Author here. Some folks wanted the details on pricing. Pre migration, the Terrateam AWS monthly bill was about $200/mo. With Fly.io, we're paying around $90/mo.

moltar 4y ago
Could you break down the costs of AWS? From your post you say you needed a simple service plus a Postgres instance. I think you can have that for around $50 on AWS using a small EC2 and Aurora Serverless v2 (min $40/mo)
- lawnchair 4y ago
  I don't have access to the bills anymore. Two AZs, RDS HA, bandwidth, and EC2 all added up. It's possible I could have cut down the bill. The initial motivation to migrate was cost, but at the end of the day we're just happy with the Fly.io developer experience. It's a better fit for us.
hknmtt 4y ago
61$/m for 1vCPU and 8GB ram? Try Hetzner next time, on bare metal, for cheaper.
- dist1ll 4y ago
  You can get 1vCPU + 2GB RAM for 3.92 Euro/month at Hetzner. Those prices are hard to beat.
  - dxxvi 4y ago
    You can get 4 virtual ARM CPU + 24GB RAM + 200GB hard disk for $0/month at Oracle cloud. Nothing can beat that.
    - dist1ll 4y ago
      Any caveats? This sounds really great.
      - arianvanp 4y ago
        None. it's part of the free-forever tier.
      - gallexme 4y ago
        1. Arm not x86 so for some it may be a big issue 2.Free tier oracle sometimes feels like you have a lower priority on the given resources, and network speed is less than on hetzner, but works fine now for a year. Wouldn't trust commercial things running on it though without a plan b
      - eb0la 4y ago
        Last time I checked Ampere cores were not available in the region I wanted. Before jumping in, look first if the Oracle image for ARN is available in the region. This doesn't guarantee you can get cores, but without the image there are no cores that can boot that.
      - nix23 4y ago
        It's great, i use it for the at last 2 years. Btw you can have 4 machines for free (2x 1core x64 1GB ram each + 2x 2core arm64 12GBram each) the min hardisk is 50GB so 4 machines from the free 200GB. Free Networking traffic up to 10TB/M, 2 free 20GB oracle databases, 20GB free Object-storage. Oh and FreeBSD runs on it (i think it's under partner-images)
      - naiv 4y ago
        No. There is even a lot more included: https://www.oracle.com/cloud/free/#always-free https://www.oracle.com/cloud/free/#always-free. 90% of the internet can run on the free tier. I also really like the dashboard much better than AWS or GCP.
        jstummbillig 4y ago
        > 90% of the internet can run on the free tier. Only, of course, it really, really can't, and their current offer is very much contingent on that not happening.
  - arcanemachiner 4y ago
    Yeah but the latency on a shared vCPU has been very noticeable in my experience. For anything serious you would want to run a dedicated vCPU which is several times more expensive (though still quite affordable)
    - paddim8 4y ago
      Netcup has cheap plans with that. 10€/month
youngtaff 4y ago
How much total time / effort did the migration take and when do you break even on the $110/month cost saving?
- lawnchair 4y ago
  It took about a weekend all said and done. We're much happier with the Fly developer experience. $200 -> $90 a month is peanuts. But we're 100% bootstrapped and frugal.
vigneshravichan 4y ago
Can you elaborate on the problems you faced with stolon? You mentioned there was a case where stolon didn’t failover. Have you created an issue on this for GitHub? (Have been a user and contributor of stolon; hence curious to know)

Author here. Some folks wanted the details on pricing. Pre migration, the Terrateam AWS monthly bill was about $200/mo. With Fly.io, we're paying around $90/mo.

moltar 4y ago

Could you break down the costs of AWS? From your post you say you needed a simple service plus a Postgres instance. I think you can have that for around $50 on AWS using a small EC2 and Aurora Serverless v2 (min $40/mo)

lawnchair 4y ago
I don't have access to the bills anymore. Two AZs, RDS HA, bandwidth, and EC2 all added up. It's possible I could have cut down the bill. The initial motivation to migrate was cost, but at the end of the day we're just happy with the Fly.io developer experience. It's a better fit for us.

hknmtt 4y ago

61$/m for 1vCPU and 8GB ram? Try Hetzner next time, on bare metal, for cheaper.

dist1ll 4y ago
You can get 1vCPU + 2GB RAM for 3.92 Euro/month at Hetzner. Those prices are hard to beat.
- dxxvi 4y ago
  You can get 4 virtual ARM CPU + 24GB RAM + 200GB hard disk for $0/month at Oracle cloud. Nothing can beat that.
  - dist1ll 4y ago
    Any caveats? This sounds really great.
    - arianvanp 4y ago
      None. it's part of the free-forever tier.
    - gallexme 4y ago
      1. Arm not x86 so for some it may be a big issue 2.Free tier oracle sometimes feels like you have a lower priority on the given resources, and network speed is less than on hetzner, but works fine now for a year. Wouldn't trust commercial things running on it though without a plan b
    - eb0la 4y ago
      Last time I checked Ampere cores were not available in the region I wanted. Before jumping in, look first if the Oracle image for ARN is available in the region. This doesn't guarantee you can get cores, but without the image there are no cores that can boot that.
    - nix23 4y ago
      It's great, i use it for the at last 2 years. Btw you can have 4 machines for free (2x 1core x64 1GB ram each + 2x 2core arm64 12GBram each) the min hardisk is 50GB so 4 machines from the free 200GB. Free Networking traffic up to 10TB/M, 2 free 20GB oracle databases, 20GB free Object-storage. Oh and FreeBSD runs on it (i think it's under partner-images)
    - naiv 4y ago
      No. There is even a lot more included: https://www.oracle.com/cloud/free/#always-free https://www.oracle.com/cloud/free/#always-free. 90% of the internet can run on the free tier. I also really like the dashboard much better than AWS or GCP.
      - jstummbillig 4y ago
        > 90% of the internet can run on the free tier. Only, of course, it really, really can't, and their current offer is very much contingent on that not happening.
- arcanemachiner 4y ago
  Yeah but the latency on a shared vCPU has been very noticeable in my experience. For anything serious you would want to run a dedicated vCPU which is several times more expensive (though still quite affordable)
  - paddim8 4y ago
    Netcup has cheap plans with that. 10€/month

youngtaff 4y ago

How much total time / effort did the migration take and when do you break even on the $110/month cost saving?

lawnchair 4y ago
It took about a weekend all said and done. We're much happier with the Fly developer experience. $200 -> $90 a month is peanuts. But we're 100% bootstrapped and frugal.

vigneshravichan 4y ago

Can you elaborate on the problems you faced with stolon? You mentioned there was a case where stolon didn’t failover. Have you created an issue on this for GitHub? (Have been a user and contributor of stolon; hence curious to know)