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Interesting to see Prince, Princess and Queen on there. In NZ, you're not allowed to use a title as a first name. No Prince, no calling your kid Sir, or Dame or

Interesting to see Prince, Princess and Queen on there. In NZ, you're not allowed to use a title as a first name. No Prince, no calling your kid Sir, or Dame or Lady, and no calling your kid Justice. But as it's only real titles, you go right ahead with Khaleesi.

Hamuko 4y ago
In Finland, the authorities probably would strike down a good chunk of this list down due to the naming laws. There was actually a case where the authorities rejected the name "Lucifer" for a person due to its negative affiliations with Satan. It was taken to administrative court and Lucifer won.
- friendlyHornet 4y ago
  Hail Lucifer! \m/
- TazeTSchnitzel 4y ago
  I feel sorry for the guy whose name was Jihad, but when he moved to Sweden (seeking asylum I think?) his name got misspelled on the paperwork as Jehad. He wasn't allowed to fix it later because “it might cause suffering to the person bearing the name”.
woodruffw 4y ago
Does this extend to foreign titles? I know a lot of Koenigs, Koonings, Kiralys, etc. Edit: Not to mention Shah and Kaur.
- cafard 4y ago
  As first names? "Earl" is the only one I can think of that is common here. It is not particularly hard to find surnames that are titles: think of B.B. King, and there are plenty of Grafs and Herzogs out there.
  - woodruffw 4y ago
    I know are least one person with Koenig as his first name, but you’re right overall!
recuter 4y ago
Lese-majeste in kiwi land in the year of our lord 2023. Most peculiar. Can I at least name my tui lady and my hamster justice?
- EdwardDiego 4y ago
  It's more about preventing confidence scams ;) https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/parenting/124107862/no-way-jose-how-do-our-baby-naming-rules-compare-to-other-countries https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/parenting/124107862/no-wa... And I'm hoping your tūī is only staying with you as you rehabilitate it after an injury :)
  - recuter 4y ago
    Interesting article but they do offer up some rather nonsensical "logic". “We’ll look at family history,” Montgomery said. “If someone else in the family has had a similar name that’s a key one. If their grandfather was called Prince before this law came into effect we’ll look at that and say, ‘Yes, that seems reasonable.’” The rule against offensive names – in the past, names like Anal and Satan have been refused in New Zealand – was to protect children. Overly long names or those that include non-letter symbols can create administrative headaches and be difficult to pronounce. The ban on titles and rank was about the risk those names could be used for fraudulent purposes or to mislead the public, Montgomery said. Seems rather like bureaucracy gone mad.
    - daughart 4y ago
      All seems sensical to me.
    - EdwardDiego 4y ago
      Well, I'll take some bureaucracy if a kid doesn't have to go through life called Anal, or No. 16 Bus Shelter (after where they were conceived, allegedly). And who can forget Talula Does The Hula From Hawaii. [0] [0]: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/number-16-bus-shelter-violence-among-kids-registered-names/E7OGEDDDEGAWK2V5W4ODX22U24/ https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/number-16-bus-shelter-violence...
aaron695 4y ago
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Hamuko 4y ago

In Finland, the authorities probably would strike down a good chunk of this list down due to the naming laws. There was actually a case where the authorities rejected the name "Lucifer" for a person due to its negative affiliations with Satan. It was taken to administrative court and Lucifer won.

friendlyHornet 4y ago
Hail Lucifer! \m/
TazeTSchnitzel 4y ago
I feel sorry for the guy whose name was Jihad, but when he moved to Sweden (seeking asylum I think?) his name got misspelled on the paperwork as Jehad. He wasn't allowed to fix it later because “it might cause suffering to the person bearing the name”.

woodruffw 4y ago

Does this extend to foreign titles? I know a lot of Koenigs, Koonings, Kiralys, etc. Edit: Not to mention Shah and Kaur.

cafard 4y ago
As first names? "Earl" is the only one I can think of that is common here. It is not particularly hard to find surnames that are titles: think of B.B. King, and there are plenty of Grafs and Herzogs out there.
- woodruffw 4y ago
  I know are least one person with Koenig as his first name, but you’re right overall!

recuter 4y ago

Lese-majeste in kiwi land in the year of our lord 2023. Most peculiar. Can I at least name my tui lady and my hamster justice?

EdwardDiego 4y ago
It's more about preventing confidence scams ;) https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/parenting/124107862/no-way-jose-how-do-our-baby-naming-rules-compare-to-other-countries https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/parenting/124107862/no-wa... And I'm hoping your tūī is only staying with you as you rehabilitate it after an injury :)
- recuter 4y ago
  Interesting article but they do offer up some rather nonsensical "logic". “We’ll look at family history,” Montgomery said. “If someone else in the family has had a similar name that’s a key one. If their grandfather was called Prince before this law came into effect we’ll look at that and say, ‘Yes, that seems reasonable.’” The rule against offensive names – in the past, names like Anal and Satan have been refused in New Zealand – was to protect children. Overly long names or those that include non-letter symbols can create administrative headaches and be difficult to pronounce. The ban on titles and rank was about the risk those names could be used for fraudulent purposes or to mislead the public, Montgomery said. Seems rather like bureaucracy gone mad.
  - daughart 4y ago
    All seems sensical to me.
  - EdwardDiego 4y ago
    Well, I'll take some bureaucracy if a kid doesn't have to go through life called Anal, or No. 16 Bus Shelter (after where they were conceived, allegedly). And who can forget Talula Does The Hula From Hawaii. [0] [0]: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/number-16-bus-shelter-violence-among-kids-registered-names/E7OGEDDDEGAWK2V5W4ODX22U24/ https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/number-16-bus-shelter-violence...

aaron695 4y ago

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