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> When public firework displays take positions on controversial issues, they provoke partisan reactions, poisoning debate further and turning aggrieved groups a

> When public firework displays take positions on controversial issues, they provoke partisan reactions, poisoning debate further and turning aggrieved groups away from public spaces. Is support for Ukraine a controversial issue in the UK? In the US, support for Ukraine is pretty widespread.

kodyo 4y ago
Support of the Ukraine is synonymous with supporting NATO’s war. There should never have been a war, and there should have been a cease fire by now. Does that opinion make me anti-Ukraine?
- _kbh_ 4y ago
  > Support of the Ukraine is synonymous with supporting NATO’s war. There should never have been a war, and there should have been a cease fire by now. Russia should have never invaded I agree, but it's up to Russia to leave now. No one can stop Russias war but Russia. Ceasefires also just help Russia so what you should really want is a quick decisive defeat of Russia by Ukraine.
- mcphage 4y ago
  > There should never have been a war, and there should have been a cease fire by now. >Does that opinion make me anti-Ukraine? Neither of those facts make you anti-Ukrainian. However, if you think the road to accomplishing that is to have Ukraine surrender, rather than Russian stop invading—that would make you anti-Ukrainian. I do note that you deliberately left out under whose terms a cease-fire should be signed, however.
Neil44 4y ago
Ukraine is widely supported vs Russia but I guess he’s saying that just because it’s popular doesn’t make the point morally correct in the context of what he’s saying. The LGBTQ+ is currently controversial in the context of the erosion of women only spaces and rights in the face of certain pressure groups.
VerifiedJoseph 4y ago
According to Ipsos (Oct '22), "6 in 10 support Britain’s response to the conflict" and "7 in 10 continue to support economic sanctions against Russia - but some evidence support could wane if there are further energy price rises" https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/public-continues-support-britains-role-ukraine-conflict https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/public-continues-support-britain... Personally I wouldn't say support for Ukraine is controversial here in the UK.
- mcphage 4y ago
  > Personally I wouldn't say support for Ukraine is controversial here in the UK. I wonder why the author singled it out an example of a controversial issue, then.

kodyo 4y ago

Support of the Ukraine is synonymous with supporting NATO’s war. There should never have been a war, and there should have been a cease fire by now. Does that opinion make me anti-Ukraine?

_kbh_ 4y ago
> Support of the Ukraine is synonymous with supporting NATO’s war. There should never have been a war, and there should have been a cease fire by now. Russia should have never invaded I agree, but it's up to Russia to leave now. No one can stop Russias war but Russia. Ceasefires also just help Russia so what you should really want is a quick decisive defeat of Russia by Ukraine.
mcphage 4y ago
> There should never have been a war, and there should have been a cease fire by now. >Does that opinion make me anti-Ukraine? Neither of those facts make you anti-Ukrainian. However, if you think the road to accomplishing that is to have Ukraine surrender, rather than Russian stop invading—that would make you anti-Ukrainian. I do note that you deliberately left out under whose terms a cease-fire should be signed, however.

Neil44 4y ago

Ukraine is widely supported vs Russia but I guess he’s saying that just because it’s popular doesn’t make the point morally correct in the context of what he’s saying. The LGBTQ+ is currently controversial in the context of the erosion of women only spaces and rights in the face of certain pressure groups.

VerifiedJoseph 4y ago

According to Ipsos (Oct '22), "6 in 10 support Britain’s response to the conflict" and "7 in 10 continue to support economic sanctions against Russia - but some evidence support could wane if there are further energy price rises" https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/public-continues-support-britains-role-ukraine-conflict https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/public-continues-support-britain... Personally I wouldn't say support for Ukraine is controversial here in the UK.

mcphage 4y ago
> Personally I wouldn't say support for Ukraine is controversial here in the UK. I wonder why the author singled it out an example of a controversial issue, then.