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There are tvs that will stop working if they don't get an active connection to update/get new ads/send telemetry after some period of time. There are tvs that w

There are tvs that will stop working if they don't get an active connection to update/get new ads/send telemetry after some period of time. There are tvs that will simply connect to any open wifi network that they can. These traits are slowly but surely becoming unavoidable if you're looking for a higher quality screen. Cached ad insertion in front of the video signal from connected devices is inevitable.

jmole 4y ago
What TVs exactly?
- somat 4y ago
  I run an open wifi acccess point and the neighbors samsung tv is the only thing using it... not sure of the exact model.
BoorishBears 4y ago
> These traits are unavoidable if you're looking for a higher quality screen. That is not true. For TVs is an inverse relationship between quality and how aggressive the "smart" parts are. The open WiFi thing was some low end Samsung, and it's been a long while since I've seen an open WiFi network that doesn't have a captive portal that would block the connection. And I've never seen a TV that would refuse to work without an internet connection, and I can't imagine anything but the most bottom end no-name TV trying to pull that.
toast0 4y ago
> There are tvs that will simply connect to any open wifi network that they can. Don't bring it to the airport or out shopping? Who has an open wifi network in range of their home? (I'm out of touch though, I live in the woods, and can only occasionally see my neighbor's networks, I get to use all the channels for myself, muhahaha) > Cached ad insertion in front of the video signal from connected devices is inevitable. Nobody is willing to run an ad program with cached ads. I tried to set one up at my previous job, because it made more sense than live ads, but nope... not going to happen; advertisers want real time control and stats.
- thenewwazoo 4y ago
  As a data point, I run an open SSID with QoS limiting throughput to 1.5 Mbps that permits only ports 80 and 443. It's enough for someone to check their email (or homework).
- vidanay 4y ago
  I have open WiFi. If you are close enough to receive a signal from my WAP, you are already on my property (or intentionally using a high gain directional antenna.)
nickthegreek 4y ago
Ive heard these assertions about their TVs from people but never any proof.
asdff 4y ago
I just checked and there is no open wifi near my apartment. Telecoms don't default open wifi anymore for their routers.
- pixl97 4y ago
  This is a very isotemporal statement. All it takes is some hacker in learning to setup an open AP just to see how many people connect.
  - asdff 4y ago
    How frequent are such hackers running such experiments in the general population? I'd say you have better odds having your house robbed and smart TV stolen.

jmole 4y ago

What TVs exactly?

somat 4y ago
I run an open wifi acccess point and the neighbors samsung tv is the only thing using it... not sure of the exact model.

BoorishBears 4y ago

> These traits are unavoidable if you're looking for a higher quality screen. That is not true. For TVs is an inverse relationship between quality and how aggressive the "smart" parts are. The open WiFi thing was some low end Samsung, and it's been a long while since I've seen an open WiFi network that doesn't have a captive portal that would block the connection. And I've never seen a TV that would refuse to work without an internet connection, and I can't imagine anything but the most bottom end no-name TV trying to pull that.

toast0 4y ago

> There are tvs that will simply connect to any open wifi network that they can. Don't bring it to the airport or out shopping? Who has an open wifi network in range of their home? (I'm out of touch though, I live in the woods, and can only occasionally see my neighbor's networks, I get to use all the channels for myself, muhahaha) > Cached ad insertion in front of the video signal from connected devices is inevitable. Nobody is willing to run an ad program with cached ads. I tried to set one up at my previous job, because it made more sense than live ads, but nope... not going to happen; advertisers want real time control and stats.

thenewwazoo 4y ago
As a data point, I run an open SSID with QoS limiting throughput to 1.5 Mbps that permits only ports 80 and 443. It's enough for someone to check their email (or homework).
vidanay 4y ago
I have open WiFi. If you are close enough to receive a signal from my WAP, you are already on my property (or intentionally using a high gain directional antenna.)

nickthegreek 4y ago

Ive heard these assertions about their TVs from people but never any proof.

asdff 4y ago

I just checked and there is no open wifi near my apartment. Telecoms don't default open wifi anymore for their routers.

pixl97 4y ago
This is a very isotemporal statement. All it takes is some hacker in learning to setup an open AP just to see how many people connect.
- asdff 4y ago
  How frequent are such hackers running such experiments in the general population? I'd say you have better odds having your house robbed and smart TV stolen.