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Entirely serious. It’s short to keep it to a point and so some nuance is missing, but there you have it. I don’t mind the flagging - I don’t expect anything mo

Entirely serious. It’s short to keep it to a point and so some nuance is missing, but there you have it. I don’t mind the flagging - I don’t expect anything more from people unwilling to take a look at things objectively.

freshpots 4y ago
I didn't flag it, but I am not even remotely surprised that it was. You have an incredibly toxic, misogynistic, and incel-based worldview that is very unhealthy. Virtually every ill you stated was the fault of women, even consumerism and violence. How many women were mass shooters again? Started wars? It is frightening that you really think that way, and I worry for those in your orbit after hearing that you are entirely serious.
- beyond_based 4y ago
  You have to look at it from a certain perspective. It’s not just misogynist. It’s also misandrist. I don’t just blame women, I blame the men for failing to uphold society to a higher moral standard and letting petty things like envy, greed, and selfishness take over them, at which point a woman can easily further manipulate them to do their bidding. Our increasingly decadent society wouldn’t be so if men realized they hold the keys to building and maintaining prosperous societies, and can refuse the corrupt inclinations of women hellbent on ruining it all for materialistic, personal gain. And that of other men who desire power and money and materialistic things for the sad approval of women. The reason why I don’t mind the flagging and the downvotes is because I don’t expect a single individual on HN to publicly agree with me. Anecdotally and privately, women and men have both echoed these things to me in a slightly more nuanced, forgiving tone. My take is more brazen, and unpalatable for this site and many others. Personally, I don’t subscribe to the manosphere, MRAs, MGTOWs, the Andrew Tates or anyone inbetween. These are all symptoms of a societal illness.
  - jimmygrapes 4y ago
    FWIW I'll take the flags with you and for the same reasons. I'd love to discuss my reasoning further with those who disagree with me, but we all know (haters and lovers alike) that it won't get that far. For now I'll just say to those who disagree: is the world and culture you've built so rapidly and defend so vociferously truly working to the ends you intend?
    - freshpots 4y ago
      You really need to give a platform to a person like that? We fight for rights only to have someone like them trample over them because of twisted logic like yours. They are the kind of person that would agree with this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89cole_Polytechnique_massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89cole_Polytechnique_massa...
  - freshpots 4y ago
    "These are all symptoms of a societal illness." Yet you are healthy with your beliefs? What you say is in some cases much worse than them, I can't speculate on what you have acted on/done: "Our increasingly decadent society wouldn’t be so if men realized they hold the keys to building and maintaining prosperous societies, and can refuse the corrupt inclinations of women hellbent on ruining it all for materialistic, personal gain. And that of other men who desire power and money and materialistic things for the sad approval of women." More of you blaming women for all of societies problems. A guy with less extreme opinions than you did this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89cole_Polytechnique_massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89cole_Polytechnique_massa... and others like him will read your extremist words and feel right at home with that kind of mindset, the same way you learned to see the world how you now do.

freshpots 4y ago

I didn't flag it, but I am not even remotely surprised that it was. You have an incredibly toxic, misogynistic, and incel-based worldview that is very unhealthy. Virtually every ill you stated was the fault of women, even consumerism and violence. How many women were mass shooters again? Started wars? It is frightening that you really think that way, and I worry for those in your orbit after hearing that you are entirely serious.

beyond_based 4y ago
You have to look at it from a certain perspective. It’s not just misogynist. It’s also misandrist. I don’t just blame women, I blame the men for failing to uphold society to a higher moral standard and letting petty things like envy, greed, and selfishness take over them, at which point a woman can easily further manipulate them to do their bidding. Our increasingly decadent society wouldn’t be so if men realized they hold the keys to building and maintaining prosperous societies, and can refuse the corrupt inclinations of women hellbent on ruining it all for materialistic, personal gain. And that of other men who desire power and money and materialistic things for the sad approval of women. The reason why I don’t mind the flagging and the downvotes is because I don’t expect a single individual on HN to publicly agree with me. Anecdotally and privately, women and men have both echoed these things to me in a slightly more nuanced, forgiving tone. My take is more brazen, and unpalatable for this site and many others. Personally, I don’t subscribe to the manosphere, MRAs, MGTOWs, the Andrew Tates or anyone inbetween. These are all symptoms of a societal illness.
- jimmygrapes 4y ago
  FWIW I'll take the flags with you and for the same reasons. I'd love to discuss my reasoning further with those who disagree with me, but we all know (haters and lovers alike) that it won't get that far. For now I'll just say to those who disagree: is the world and culture you've built so rapidly and defend so vociferously truly working to the ends you intend?
  - freshpots 4y ago
    You really need to give a platform to a person like that? We fight for rights only to have someone like them trample over them because of twisted logic like yours. They are the kind of person that would agree with this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89cole_Polytechnique_massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89cole_Polytechnique_massa...
- freshpots 4y ago
  "These are all symptoms of a societal illness." Yet you are healthy with your beliefs? What you say is in some cases much worse than them, I can't speculate on what you have acted on/done: "Our increasingly decadent society wouldn’t be so if men realized they hold the keys to building and maintaining prosperous societies, and can refuse the corrupt inclinations of women hellbent on ruining it all for materialistic, personal gain. And that of other men who desire power and money and materialistic things for the sad approval of women." More of you blaming women for all of societies problems. A guy with less extreme opinions than you did this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89cole_Polytechnique_massacre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89cole_Polytechnique_massa... and others like him will read your extremist words and feel right at home with that kind of mindset, the same way you learned to see the world how you now do.