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If you do the slightest bit of research into the criminalization of drugs in the US you will find that the people putting up those fences were laughably far fro

If you do the slightest bit of research into the criminalization of drugs in the US you will find that the people putting up those fences were laughably far from protectors of society. They were demonstrably more motivated by racism and classism than by a desire to safeguard social progress.

notch656c 4y ago
I think we're better off with a rich, mixed, and multicultural society but it may actually be true that a more homogenous society that tosses fringe races into the shredder or whatever is actually a safer place for the "right" people. Maybe they were protectors in their own racist way.
lurquer 4y ago
US laws are not the fence. Well-functioning societies have steered clear of intoxication. A A Clear-headed, rational, and objective view of reality is the goal. There’s nothing new about messing with your perception of reality. Wise men steer clear of it. Wise men counsel against intoxication of any kind. Fools don’t ask why.
- kbelder 4y ago
  Your comment is sensible and, apparently, roundly rejected.
- notch656c 4y ago
  Spending a tiny fraction of your life intoxicated allows you to make rational decisions despite occasional enjoying altered consciousness. There may be some level of brain damage but depending on the substance and how often it's used I question whether it's necessarily going to be the limiting factor in the aging body.
- andrew_ 4y ago
  There is much new speculation by historians and archeologists that psychedelics are widely responsible for giant leaps in civilization and "society." Your take is a puritanical, modern view without regard to history or nuance.
- jobs_throwaway 4y ago
  Can you give a few examples of such well-functioning societies?
- mythrwy 4y ago
  I think maybe there is no "clear headed and rational view" of reality in truth. There is only perspective, which somehow relates to a thing we like to call "reality" but the relationship is tenuous at best and doesn't always directly correspond. Understanding the role of perspective I believe can be valuable. Sometimes maybe a shakeup helps to understand perspective is just that, or otherwise produce a different way of looking at things.

notch656c 4y ago

I think we're better off with a rich, mixed, and multicultural society but it may actually be true that a more homogenous society that tosses fringe races into the shredder or whatever is actually a safer place for the "right" people. Maybe they were protectors in their own racist way.

lurquer 4y ago

US laws are not the fence. Well-functioning societies have steered clear of intoxication. A A Clear-headed, rational, and objective view of reality is the goal. There’s nothing new about messing with your perception of reality. Wise men steer clear of it. Wise men counsel against intoxication of any kind. Fools don’t ask why.

kbelder 4y ago
Your comment is sensible and, apparently, roundly rejected.
notch656c 4y ago
Spending a tiny fraction of your life intoxicated allows you to make rational decisions despite occasional enjoying altered consciousness. There may be some level of brain damage but depending on the substance and how often it's used I question whether it's necessarily going to be the limiting factor in the aging body.
andrew_ 4y ago
There is much new speculation by historians and archeologists that psychedelics are widely responsible for giant leaps in civilization and "society." Your take is a puritanical, modern view without regard to history or nuance.
jobs_throwaway 4y ago
Can you give a few examples of such well-functioning societies?
mythrwy 4y ago
I think maybe there is no "clear headed and rational view" of reality in truth. There is only perspective, which somehow relates to a thing we like to call "reality" but the relationship is tenuous at best and doesn't always directly correspond. Understanding the role of perspective I believe can be valuable. Sometimes maybe a shakeup helps to understand perspective is just that, or otherwise produce a different way of looking at things.