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> Their problem is that they refuse to put together a well formatted resume, apply to jobs, and accept that they may have to start at the bottom of the career l

> Their problem is that they refuse to put together a well formatted resume, apply to jobs, and accept that they may have to start at the bottom of the career ladder. I see this a lot. Younger people who have been led to believe by incendiary reddit and twitter rants that everyone lived like some Leave it to Beaver sitcom in the near past and they should be able to own a house and support a family at 19 on a McDonald's salary, and anything short of that there's no point participating because it's not fair. There are a lot of legitimate grievances in there regarding stagnating real wages and student debt etc. but for many it's just an excuse.

tennisflyi 4y ago
I can not for the life of me get a "bottom of the career ladder" SDR/BDR position...
fundad 4y ago
In Beaver’s time, the best paying jobs were not available to the global majority.
- jimmaswell 4y ago
  True, and even among white suburban middle-class people the depiction was often unrealistic.
thesuitonym 4y ago
Except that there really was a time when a person was able to graduate high school, go down to the local factory, and get a job that would buy a house and support a family with nothing other than a firm handshake. They didn't do it on a McDonalds salary, but that's because this all happened before McDonalds were around, and the cafes and restaurants that McD's later replaced all paid living wages.
yamtaddle 4y ago
My high-school-diploma, literally raised in a barn, divorced-with-child-support-plus-another-kid-out-of-wedlock dad, who piddled around at odd jobs making almost nothing in his 20s before finally getting job at the railroad and working up to middle management, retired early as a millionaire, having paid my way through college (a cheap one, but still). My mom had a junior college degree and only worked like 6 years, before they got married, so they were single-income, too. We went on a nice couple-weeks-long road trip every year and traveled to see family around holidays. They could afford to drop a stupid amount of money on a Tandy for me when I was really young, in case the whole computer thing took off. We did great. It really, really was different for the boomers. And union-won retirement benefits were so good back then. Plus that money was tied up in the retirement scheme, so you couldn't "defect" and spend it to compete for housing (driving up prices) rather than putting it in your 401k.

tennisflyi 4y ago

I can not for the life of me get a "bottom of the career ladder" SDR/BDR position...

fundad 4y ago

In Beaver’s time, the best paying jobs were not available to the global majority.

jimmaswell 4y ago
True, and even among white suburban middle-class people the depiction was often unrealistic.

thesuitonym 4y ago

Except that there really was a time when a person was able to graduate high school, go down to the local factory, and get a job that would buy a house and support a family with nothing other than a firm handshake. They didn't do it on a McDonalds salary, but that's because this all happened before McDonalds were around, and the cafes and restaurants that McD's later replaced all paid living wages.

yamtaddle 4y ago

My high-school-diploma, literally raised in a barn, divorced-with-child-support-plus-another-kid-out-of-wedlock dad, who piddled around at odd jobs making almost nothing in his 20s before finally getting job at the railroad and working up to middle management, retired early as a millionaire, having paid my way through college (a cheap one, but still). My mom had a junior college degree and only worked like 6 years, before they got married, so they were single-income, too. We went on a nice couple-weeks-long road trip every year and traveled to see family around holidays. They could afford to drop a stupid amount of money on a Tandy for me when I was really young, in case the whole computer thing took off. We did great. It really, really was different for the boomers. And union-won retirement benefits were so good back then. Plus that money was tied up in the retirement scheme, so you couldn't "defect" and spend it to compete for housing (driving up prices) rather than putting it in your 401k.