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> the minority that historically was doing the oppressing? Is it so difficult to realize those oppressors are dead and these men weren’t alive in 1920?

TylerE 4y ago
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- ZGDUwpqEWpUZ 4y ago
  https://www.vox.com/2019/5/20/18629644/abortion-gender-gap-public-opinion https://www.vox.com/2019/5/20/18629644/abortion-gender-gap-p...
- tonightstoast 4y ago
  Please check out the Vox article linked by the other poster. I want to preface with saying I’m pro choice. But are you really going to argue the 5 men and 1 woman that vote to affirm Dobbs is representative of the nation? People (including me) have been complaining about how the court hasn’t had a majority blue nomination since the 50s even though the political pendulum has swung multiple times since then. And grouping every male into the ruling .01% is not a good faith argument.
  - reducesuffering 4y ago
    Those 5 mens' and 1 woman's actions would be moot if the conservative states upheld abortion rights. But we all know that when finally given the choice, those states, with representatives run on anti-abortion platforms by popularity, took away those womens' rights. There were tens of millions of men in the South and Idaho involved in those decisions.
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Zigurd 4y ago
Who killed all the gamergaters?
- Beltalowda 4y ago
  These are like a few thousands people, maybe in the tens of thousands at the most. There are about 1 billion men on the internet, give or take. The internet is very good at amplifying a bunch of very motivated nutjobs. I can, if I wanted to, send death threats and all sorts of horrible things to hundreds of people before breakfast. And tomorrow again. And the day after that. And I'm just one guy with a crummy laptop. Go out on the street and I'll bet you that most men haven't even heard of gamergate, or have only vaguely heard of it and don't really know much details. And those that do at least roughly know what it was all about will think they're a bunch of idiots.
  - Zigurd 4y ago
    The point is: men with this grievance are doing it to themselves. If you think Jordan Peterson or Andrew Tate are going to break you out of "the matrix" and restore the proper roles of men, that's only going to make you hideous to normal people, especially women, even if you 'roided up and got a Joe Rogan neck size. There is no shortage of these men that filled the ranks of gamergaters, the various "patriot" brownshirt gangs, etc. They are very much among us and they are horrible misogynists. Pretending they died off three generations ago is unproductive and nutty. It's not being amplified without effect, recruitment, and numbers. Jordan Peterson would not be a podcast star without a large population of followers. Those followers are being misled into misogyny and related "red pill" ideologies.

TylerE 4y ago

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ZGDUwpqEWpUZ 4y ago
https://www.vox.com/2019/5/20/18629644/abortion-gender-gap-public-opinion https://www.vox.com/2019/5/20/18629644/abortion-gender-gap-p...
tonightstoast 4y ago
Please check out the Vox article linked by the other poster. I want to preface with saying I’m pro choice. But are you really going to argue the 5 men and 1 woman that vote to affirm Dobbs is representative of the nation? People (including me) have been complaining about how the court hasn’t had a majority blue nomination since the 50s even though the political pendulum has swung multiple times since then. And grouping every male into the ruling .01% is not a good faith argument.
- reducesuffering 4y ago
  Those 5 mens' and 1 woman's actions would be moot if the conservative states upheld abortion rights. But we all know that when finally given the choice, those states, with representatives run on anti-abortion platforms by popularity, took away those womens' rights. There were tens of millions of men in the South and Idaho involved in those decisions.
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Zigurd 4y ago

Who killed all the gamergaters?

Beltalowda 4y ago
These are like a few thousands people, maybe in the tens of thousands at the most. There are about 1 billion men on the internet, give or take. The internet is very good at amplifying a bunch of very motivated nutjobs. I can, if I wanted to, send death threats and all sorts of horrible things to hundreds of people before breakfast. And tomorrow again. And the day after that. And I'm just one guy with a crummy laptop. Go out on the street and I'll bet you that most men haven't even heard of gamergate, or have only vaguely heard of it and don't really know much details. And those that do at least roughly know what it was all about will think they're a bunch of idiots.
- Zigurd 4y ago
  The point is: men with this grievance are doing it to themselves. If you think Jordan Peterson or Andrew Tate are going to break you out of "the matrix" and restore the proper roles of men, that's only going to make you hideous to normal people, especially women, even if you 'roided up and got a Joe Rogan neck size. There is no shortage of these men that filled the ranks of gamergaters, the various "patriot" brownshirt gangs, etc. They are very much among us and they are horrible misogynists. Pretending they died off three generations ago is unproductive and nutty. It's not being amplified without effect, recruitment, and numbers. Jordan Peterson would not be a podcast star without a large population of followers. Those followers are being misled into misogyny and related "red pill" ideologies.