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Two big things stick out in all of this to me... 1) There's the idea that one parent does not work for a company. This is hard for a lot of men and women to h
by mfer 4y ago
Two big things stick out in all of this to me...
1) There's the idea that one parent does not work for a company.
This is hard for a lot of men and women to handle. A lot is put into the idea that adults need to be part of the economic productivity cycle or you're failing. Stay at home dad's are looked down on by others a lot due to this. It happens to many stay at home mom's, too.
Think about it. If both parents work they make more so they can consume more. That means more money for share holders and companies.
> what it is that you do
This assumes that the important thing to do is something related to companies and the economy. It's unsaid but assumed without most realizing it.
2) We have an idea that women can do anything men can. That women can step into traditional mens spaces. But, the opposite isn't true. That men can step into traditional womens spaces. It's a double standard. It's not said but it's thought. Even when people don't realize it.
- A4ET8a8uTh0 4y ago<< A lot is put into the idea that adults need to be part of the economic productivity cycle or you're failing. Yes and no, I think. I agree in abstract, because I am sure it is a factor, but I will give my personal anecdata. Covid was a stroke of good luck for me, because I effectively was able to be a father and work from home at the same time ( 1st year kid - and she slept on a tight schedule ). And I will admit it was incredibly fulfilling ( albeit tiring ). We are a dual income household and above average in terms of income for our state and I honestly do not feel comfortable enough to let her stay home full time ( which is part of the reason for my goals for 2023 are more aggressive in terms of learning and moving my skill set to the next level ). Even by myself, we are above average and I still think it is not enough to keep the current level of comforts ( and I have no idea how other people manage ). << 2) We have an idea that women can do anything men can. That women can step into traditional mens spaces. But, the opposite isn't true. That men can step into traditional womens spaces. It's a double standard. It's not said but it's thought. Even when people don't realize it. Again, I think yes and no. Are there MMA fighters? Yeah, and some good ones too, but as my cousin recently said: "Do I want my daughter to be a plumber? No."
- mfer 4y ago> "Do I want my daughter to be a plumber? No." How many people want their son to be a plumber? Likely not many of the people on HN. Does a lot of this view have to do with what people think of jobs like plumbers?
- dgfitz 4y agoPlumbers, at least on the East Coast, make good money. If one of my kids became a plumber I would have no problem with it. Do I WANT them to become a plumber? Not really. If school is just not interesting to them and they like working with their hands a trade isn't a bad way to go.
- A4ET8a8uTh0 4y agoThey make decent money here too. I genuinely want my kid to do what they feel they want to do ( or have a strong predisposition for ). That is obviously not apparent now, but I absolutely agree that trade is not a bad idea from my perspective. I have an indoor job with no heavy lifting, but.. eh, there are days I wish I asked my dad to teach me about currents and cars.
- mitthrowaway2 4y agoWhy doesn't your cousin want their daughter to be a plumber?
- A4ET8a8uTh0 4y agoIt was not explicitly stated. The unspoken reason was "She should get a degree and have a BS job in an office." It is possible I am just projecting my own prejudice here.