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Bull.

by ponow 4y ago

Bull.

mschuster91 4y ago
Do you have factual information backing your statement? I have, to take the two dominant Christian fundamentalist interpretations: - for Mormonism: "Numerous Prophets have instructed that a Mormon woman’s place is in the home. Only Federal anti-discrimination laws, which the Church vigorously opposed, and the threat of Federal prosecution, forced the Church in 1970s to stop terminating female employment upon the birth of her first child. While no longer as clearly directed from the pulpit, a women’s place in Mormonism remains very different than that of a man. Even into the 1980s, President Kimball reiterated that “…a mother’s place is in the home!” The idea of complementary spheres for men and women rules Mormon doctrine and is the answer to almost every question about the lack of power for women in the church." [1] - for the Southern Baptists: "A wife is to submit herself graciously to the servant leadership of her husband even as the church willingly submits to the headship of Christ. She, being in the image of God as is her husband and thus equal to him, has the God-given responsibility to respect her husband and to serve as his helper in managing the household and nurturing the next generation." [2] This is what these religions teach about women, there is no denying or whitewashing that. [1] https://www.mormonstories.org/truth-claims/mormon-culture/women-in-mormonism/ https://www.mormonstories.org/truth-claims/mormon-culture/wo... [2] https://bfm.sbc.net/bfm2000/report-of-the-baptist-faith-and-message-study-committee-on-article-xviii/ https://bfm.sbc.net/bfm2000/report-of-the-baptist-faith-and-...
- Beltalowda 4y ago
  There's a lot of religious things written down that many people don't really follow in practice. Are there various religious views that don't view women as I would like to? Sure. But it's quite a leap to "literally brainwashed from birth that women's purpose is to be docile broodmares". And quite a few religious women want to be house-makers. Do I personally think that's a rather outdated view of what it means to be a woman? Sure. But it's not my life to live and the women's choice. Let's assign some agency to these women and allow them to live their lives as they see fit before claiming they're "brainwashed". "Being able to make my own choices just like men" is kind of the point of feminism, no?

Bull.

by ponow 4y ago

Bull.

Do you have factual information backing your statement? I have, to take the two dominant Christian fundamentalist interpretations: - for Mormonism: "Numerous Prophets have instructed that a Mormon woman’s place is in the home. Only Federal anti-discrimination laws, which the Church vigorously opposed, and the threat of Federal prosecution, forced the Church in 1970s to stop terminating female employment upon the birth of her first child. While no longer as clearly directed from the pulpit, a women’s place in Mormonism remains very different than that of a man. Even into the 1980s, President Kimball reiterated that “…a mother’s place is in the home!” The idea of complementary spheres for men and women rules Mormon doctrine and is the answer to almost every question about the lack of power for women in the church." [1] - for the Southern Baptists: "A wife is to submit herself graciously to the servant leadership of her husband even as the church willingly submits to the headship of Christ. She, being in the image of God as is her husband and thus equal to him, has the God-given responsibility to respect her husband and to serve as his helper in managing the household and nurturing the next generation." [2] This is what these religions teach about women, there is no denying or whitewashing that. [1] https://www.mormonstories.org/truth-claims/mormon-culture/women-in-mormonism/ https://www.mormonstories.org/truth-claims/mormon-culture/wo... [2] https://bfm.sbc.net/bfm2000/report-of-the-baptist-faith-and-message-study-committee-on-article-xviii/ https://bfm.sbc.net/bfm2000/report-of-the-baptist-faith-and-...

Beltalowda 4y ago
There's a lot of religious things written down that many people don't really follow in practice. Are there various religious views that don't view women as I would like to? Sure. But it's quite a leap to "literally brainwashed from birth that women's purpose is to be docile broodmares". And quite a few religious women want to be house-makers. Do I personally think that's a rather outdated view of what it means to be a woman? Sure. But it's not my life to live and the women's choice. Let's assign some agency to these women and allow them to live their lives as they see fit before claiming they're "brainwashed". "Being able to make my own choices just like men" is kind of the point of feminism, no?